RUC's for all road vehicles, this will be fun.

[sugilite:Me]

I think I'm trying to say it's not so much the technology when it comes to government IT projects as the implementation, it never seems to happen as quickly or as easily as advertised. I guess Google and Apple track billions of people's phones on a daily basis, how hard can it be? Having said that when I look up my Google timeline, it's only seems to track positions, not the route taken between them, no experience with Apple...I've got no idea if that's relevant.

The 'National Ticketing Solution' for public transport, as an example, seems to be a technological 'solution' which they're struggling to implement.

Ahhh, cheers for that. Funnily enough I spent 6 years working for GCS (Government Computing Services) during the time of the police incest system debacle, though I had nothing to do with it with me being a Network Controller. For every Government disaster IT project being reported, there were a lot more successful ones being implemented that were not reported.
However with that being said, as trucking firms have systems already in place that do this style of operation already - all the Government needs to do, is pick the best system already available and award that company the contract - then manage the contract with oversight. What "Man most voted to receive a custard pie to the face" Chis Bishop is proposing is to have multiple private companies with competing solutions to "vie" for our business. I'm sure none of them will be associated with nationals rich buddies, and that said companies wont price fix among each other while being largely out of reach of Government oversight - surely not Mr Bishop - right?

With a rebate for every kilometer travelled on one wheel. Wheelies not only save you money on tyre wear but also on extra tax for driving. Plus it makes the transgender more efficient if it is pointing straight up in the air.

Officer, that was not a wheelie! That was a considerate erection - thus saving the road and fellow tax payers from unnecessary wear, tear & maintenance costs

[jellywrestler]

Evel Knievel might get a discount for time spent with no wheels on the ground, but the EK rebate is unlikely to be widely used.

and when i travel with my bike in my van what happens then?

[BMWST?]

and when i travel with my bike in my van what happens then?

good point.A detail none the less. Same applies to cars getting towed and motorbikes being delivered. Double dipping could ensue

[JimO]

how about domestic/boat trailers , will they need hubodometers

[rastuscat]

and when i travel with my bike in my van what happens then?

My guess would be that as long as the bike isn't running in the back of your van, the GPS thingy won't be powered up, so won't be clocking miles.

Already trailers are exempt from petrol tax, as they don't take, um, petrol.

[rastuscat]

good point.A detail none the less. Same applies to cars getting towed and motorbikes being delivered. Double dipping could ensue

If the vehicle isn't powered up, the GPS logger won't be either. I would have thought.

[F5 Dave]

how about domestic/boat trailers , will they need hubodometers

Why did you even ask that?

[jellywrestler]

Why did you even ask that?

he was triggered, that's quite common these days

[nerrrd]

If the vehicle isn't powered up, the GPS logger won't be either. I would have thought.

How long will it take to install 3 million plus data loggers, I wonder. A good time to be an auto electrician, or will they allow DIY? Some kind of switch might come in handy. They’ll have to reference odometer readings for verification I guess.

[R650R]

How long will it take to install 3 million plus data loggers, I wonder. A good time to be an auto electrician, or will they allow DIY? Some kind of switch might come in handy. They’ll have to reference odometer readings for verification I guess.

A portion of our populace already has govt tracking devices installed on their ankles after making unwise lifestyle choices. I see some of them perusing the aisles at PaknSave, non of them are attached to a power supply.
I doubt many of them ever visited an auto electrician business and if they did it prob wasnt during business hours
Bishop let slip in the interview that newer cars slready have the tracking technology installed it’s just that we haven’t paid the fee to access it yet. That’s why we have those push button ignition systems where you’re requesting your car to start….
Enjoy your freedom folks while it lasts, never mind peak oil we’re running out of freedom before that happens.

[nerrrd]

A portion of our populace already has govt tracking devices installed on their ankles after making unwise lifestyle choices. I see some of them perusing the aisles at PaknSave, non of them are attached to a power supply.
I doubt many of them ever visited an auto electrician business and if they did it prob wasnt during business hours
Bishop let slip in the interview that newer cars slready have the tracking technology installed it’s just that we haven’t paid the fee to access it yet. That’s why we have those push button ignition systems where you’re requesting your car to start….
Enjoy your freedom folks while it lasts, never mind peak oil we’re running out of freedom before that happens.

Google says you have to charge your ankle monitor daily.

At least in a vehicle there's usually a cigarette lighter to plug into for power. Or even a usb port in all those fancy newer cars. Nothing on my 2021 Honda though. Oops, sorry officer, I must have knocked the plug out.

How accurate is the average odometer vs GPS? Might need some tolerance there. If they're using WOF mileage figures for reference, that's a possible data entry failure point. They'll need a credible error resolution process as well.

[Moi]

How long will it take to install 3 million plus data loggers, I wonder. A good time to be an auto electrician, or will they allow DIY? Some kind of switch might come in handy. They’ll have to reference odometer readings for verification I guess.

I wonder if they'll even go that way.

What are things you can do as a political party that will, almost, guarantee you'll not get to hold the treasury benches after the next election?

* talk too loudly about increasing the age for receiving National Super

and I'd suggest

* making every vehicle, particularly private mum and dad vehicles, will have a GPS tracker.

I suspect that if/when it happens it'll be a simple solution because anything that suggests government watching you too closely will be distasteful for many electors.

[JimO]

Why did you even ask that?

because i have seen mention of trailers being included

[pritch]

A portion of our populace already has govt tracking devices installed on their ankles after making unwise lifestyle choices. I see some of them perusing the aisles at PaknSave, non of them are attached to a power supply.
I doubt many of them ever visited an auto electrician business and if they did it prob wasnt during business hours
Bishop let slip in the interview that newer cars slready have the tracking technology installed it’s just that we haven’t paid the fee to access it yet.

On the TV item the required device was compared to an Apple air tag but it would presumably need to be connected to the cars battery.

You must live in a rougher neighbourhood than me. I just came across my first ankle monitor last year. He was an interesting character with a back story that was complete fiction, and he mentioned an anger management problem.

A year or two back a bike magazine contained an article that claimed some bikes now come equipped with tech roughly comparable to the black box in aircraft. Kawasaki were mentioned specifically. That could be embarrassing - and expensive if it became general knowledge.

[nerrrd]

On the TV item the required device was compared to an Apple air tag but it would presumably need to be connected to the cars battery.

I've been looking at the Eroad site, seems there's a difference between knowing where something is at a single point in time and tracking something over time, the former can be a tiny battery powered thingumy like an Airtag, the latter looks like it's more involved and needs more power than that. Interesting that they don't publish pricing on their website.