The time has come!!!

**Conquiztador** · 31st July 2007, 17:23

Originally Posted by betti

As far as germany being draconian when it comes to modified bikes, it is true they have T.U.V. which is effectively a tighter form of low volume vehicle certification, but they most certainly don't just engrave and paint their bikes.
Germany has produced some of the most radical streetfighters/customs on the planet, check out

http://www.whaccessories.com/Streetfighters.htm

Just shows you, the more restrictive the legislation, the more ways people will find ways round 'em.
Individuality is a huge part of motorcycling, and modification will never die!.

As anywhere in the world there is ways to do it. My point was that in Germany you need a certification to have any change or modification done to your bike no matter how small. And that is the draconian part here. You are not allowed to do any changes without it been approved by the rulers. As this is a process in it self and also costs Euros many do not even go there.

I just hope that we never end up with same restrictions. That will be the end of us who like to not buy stuff of the shelf.

**Hitcher** · 31st July 2007, 22:00

I shall be reporting back on this further later this week. I am conducting an experiment...

**MSTRS:Me** · 1st August 2007, 09:21

As a guide for dB level, I checked the 750 with the Yoshi TRS...at 5000rpm it reads 87dB @ 2.5m.
In contrast, YT's 500 with its awful cans reads 93.5dB.
So basically, they would both comply.

**pritch** · 1st August 2007, 10:45

This from the LTSA:

"In July 2006, interim measures were implemented to allow the objective noise test to be introduced through the existing legal requirements of the Traffic Regulations, by means of a Gazette notice. The objective noise test is based on the international ISO 5130 Measurement of noise emitted by stationary road vehicles test methodology (the ‘stationary tailpipe’ noise test). The test measures exhaust noise using a microphone placed 0.5 metres away from the tailpipe of the vehicle. Noise levels for the interim objective noise test are required to be consistent with the current levels in the Traffic Regulations. These levels correlate to a maximum of 95dBA for light vehicles and a maximum of 100dBA for motorcycles, when tested using the ‘stationary tailpipe’ noise test."

This from Arrow:

" RPM 5250 rounds/m

Background noise 48 Db

Stock exhaust 86 Db

Arrow silencers kit/b> 91 Db "

I'll go back to sleep now.

**marty** · 3rd August 2007, 09:11

Originally Posted by Hitcher

I shall be reporting back on this further later this week. I am conducting an experiment...

Well it's Friday Hitch.......

How much for the TL? Does it come with a WOF?

**Hitcher** · 3rd August 2007, 11:05

Originally Posted by marty

Well it's Friday Hitch?

Indeed. The TBR-festooned FJR is current at TSS for a WOF and PR2s. Sitrep later.

How's that for Acronymville?

**Hitcher** · 6th August 2007, 12:58

Experiment over: The FJR now has a lovely new legal WOF which did not require the swapping of its brass section for a kazoo orchestra.

**MSTRS:Me** · 6th August 2007, 13:09

So, in short, a can has to be MIGHTY LOUD to fail

**vifferman** · 6th August 2007, 13:43

Originally Posted by MSTRS

So, in short, a can has to be MIGHTY LOUD to fail

... unless the person doing the test is some obnoxious, pedantic, failed mechanic cum bureaucrat with toothache and piles, who didn't get a bit last night.

**Hailwood** · 6th August 2007, 14:34

I took my bike with the Screamin Eagle pipes to VTNZ for a warrant. The guy there saw the pipes and gave it a handful a few times..I thought he was going to say something he looked at me and said that sounds like it should very nice here is the warrant

**MSTRS:Me** · 6th August 2007, 14:50

Originally Posted by vifferman

... unless the person doing the test is some obnoxious, pedantic, failed mechanic cum bureaucrat with toothache and piles, who didn't get a bit last night.

Not legally, he can't. Bastard little Hitlers - should all be shot.
Develop a close friendship with a LVVT and have him rivet a compliance plate on your can. Shouldn't cost more than a doz....