Ducati race team!!!

[jimbo600]

If she figures out what that is, and then tries to beat me round the hoop with it, I'm givin Kath the pictures from Alexandra ya bastard.

Hey bro' we made a pact. Some things folk just don't need to see. Plus they might get her frothy at the bung and then I'll be in trouble.

[Drew]

Hey bro' we made a pact. Some things folk just don't need to see. Plus they might get her frothy at the bung and then I'll be in trouble.

Dude, everything I think of to retort, is WAY too much for public broadcast, I will conceed this round to you my friend.

[jimbo600]

Dude, everything I think of to retort, is WAY too much for public broadcast, I will conceed this round to you my friend.

A spirited duel indeed sir. Lets never speak of it again.

[limbimtimwim]

WHAT!!!!?
You lost me on that one man

I was being scientific.

Did you know I have a degree in science?

Seriously, no lie. I am a scientist.

[cowpoos]

So my old SP-1 wasn't making 127HP at the rear wheel then ? Or Jimbo's Gixxer 750 not making 125HP ?

buggered if I know!! my point was in relation to rear wheel dyno figures on proper dynos...of which there is apparently only 2 factory pro's in the country and one other braked dyno...inertiea[*sp]/dynojet ones are hidiously full of shit!!

Factory standard 2006 749R 121hp mr Pooseywoosie, well, according to the spec sheet. A little more with the Termi's and racekit bla bla bla.

2004 749R (Drewbums bike), 116hp ( I think )

factory crank figures indeed love!!

So how you doin anyway???

Check and Mate!
Thankyou Vicky.
The R model has titanium valves and is completly different from a "stock" 749.. blah blah...

So yeah.. On the Motomart Dyno, our 749r racebike made over 120hp at the rear. Only change we made was the Termi system.

I may know a little about it.

then why the hell arn't all the top supersport guys using them if thats the horse power they are making?? its more than sams or jays bikes were making!!! or is your dyno incorrect?? most likely!

I believe they were on the Motomart Dyno also...

hmmmmmmmm

So at least it's lies are consistent?

Carefull there bro, some people still think, that a dynomometer, gives a real HP figure. Ignorance is bliss I suppose.

Dont anybody start wanking on about how conservative the dyno they use is, or how it is calibrated, cos the plain and simple truth is....

THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS AN ACCURATE DYNO.

yes there are accurate ones...I'm sure we had this disscussion one night and for some un-fucking believable reason we agreed???

They are only any good for comparitive testing, and the only thing it will give within acceptable tollerances, is a percentage differential.

A spirited duel indeed sir. Lets never speak of it again.

Go one Jimbo...tell us!!! I'll buy ya a 50c mix of lollies???

[Sparky Bills]

Because they cost three as much as a jap bike...?
And Ducati Australia dont support riders in NZ.

[cowpoos]

Because they cost three as much as a jap bike...?
And Ducati Australia dont support riders in NZ.

oh...you mean they are winning somewhere else in the world?? besides the ducati 749r cup in telli-tubbie land??

seriously bro...if they had that sort of go....they would be faster....they already have the capacity adavantage....traction advantage over the inline fours!! we all know ducatis handle excelently!! especially ones with factory ohlins all round!!

and I'm not a Ducati hater...not at all...love em...can't afford a compeditive one to race...so don't have one...or a compeditive bike for that matter...

[Sparky Bills]

oh...you mean they are winning somewhere else in the world?? besides the ducati 749r cup in telli-tubbie land??

seriously bro...if they had that sort of go....they would be faster....they already have the capacity adavantage....traction advantage over the inline fours!! we all know ducatis handle excelently!! especially ones with factory ohlins all round!!

and I'm not a Ducati hater...not at all...love em...can't afford a compeditive one to race...so don't have one...or a compeditive bike for that matter...

DUCATI HATER!!
Everywhere else in the world, the classes allow bikes to be modified and have up to 140hp.
Im pissing into the wind here arnt I...?

[slowpoke]

Im pissing into the wind here arnt I...?

Yep.....but it's fun to watch

[Drew]

Yep.....but it's fun to watch

+1, it's very enjoyable to watch.

[Deano]

They are only any good for comparitive testing, and the only thing it will give within acceptable tollerances, is a percentage differential.

The thing I like about the Motomart dyno is that it gives a semi consistent HP figure when compared to the factory claims.

SP-1 - 140HP claimed (I assume at the crank)
MMart dyno - 127HP at the rear wheel

There may be no true corelation, unless the factory are using the same sort of dyno and calibrated equally.....unlikely, but close, perhaps.

[Drew]

The thing I like about the Motomart dyno is that it gives a semi consistent HP figure when compared to the factory claims.

SP-1 - 140HP claimed (I assume at the crank)
MMart dyno - 127HP at the rear wheel

The figure I was given on loss through the drive system, was fifteen percent, that was quite some time ago now tho, so I'd expect some gains have been made since then.

The claimed power figures from the factory, are worked out mathematically, using very lengthy equations, unfortunately however they work in perfect world scenarios, where air temp and densities are spot on, as are fuel octanes and the like.

Quoting factory figures is not wrong, it's just not really atainable anywhere but the labratory where the engine is developed.

I'm told, that Ducati actually Dyno all there bikes, I cannot find this piece of info on the web anywhere, but even if it is the case, I have once already pointed out the problem with Dynomometers.

[merv]

To silence the critics all you've got to do is win the races !!!!!

[Drew]

To silence the critics all you've got to do is win the races !!!!!

True that!!! Now all I need is my bike to be ready.

[Masterchop]

I'm told, that Ducati actually Dyno all there bikes, I cannot find this piece of info on the web anywhere, but even if it is the case, I have once already pointed out the problem with Dynomometers.

Yup,I think they do,

Up to around 2005 they quoted rear wheel figures but these days crank HP figures to be more comparable with the figures the other factories use.