Wire barriers TV3 NEWS TONIGHT

[Scouse]

As regards to what form the protest should take, my thoughts are blocking the motorway will get a lot of people seriously pissed off, and not help the cause at all.

What about using the emergency lanes on the side of the motorway as a parking spot for half an hour, if possible near some cheesecutters, making sure to pick the appropriate time and place for maximum safety during the day.

If everybody rode as a group and pulled over as a group there would not be much anyone could do about it.

You will have to make damned sure that it's a place where people can safely stop and gather without being hit by 110kph traffic though.

Nice Idea Janno but Motorways are a very dangerous place to stop on even if it is on the emergency lane I personaly would not do this I would rather ride with hopfully 2,000 other bikers say from Bombay Hills to Queen street on mass.
By the way Jen and felix you both did us proud good skills guys.

[MSTRS:Me]

I'm not sure that a protest stop on the side of the motorway is a good idea. Highly visible but only to the motorists passing that spot at the time. Not to mention how dangerous it could be to bikes and riders....
A campaign on multiple fronts would be good tho. Queen St/Parliament/Media. Perhaps some here with 'contacts' could convince a wealthy person or organisation to fund full page ads in all the dailies, with suitable imagery for full effect.
Failing that....plasma cutters, anyone??

[Mountlocal1]

I'm not sure that a protest stop on the side of the motorway is a good idea. Highly visible but only to the motorists passing that spot at the time. Not to mention how dangerous it could be to bikes and riders....
A campaign on multiple fronts would be good tho. Queen St/Parliament/Media. Perhaps some here with 'contacts' could convince a wealthy person or organisation to fund full page ads in all the dailies, with suitable imagery for full effect.
Failing that....plasma cutters, anyone??

Prehaps at some stage in the future we should set up an account for donations to help this cause if its needed? To pay for flyers or newspaper adds etc.

[Shadows]

That bearded git needs to be thrown down the road, wearing the best leathers and armour money can buy, into one of those fences. Then, maybe we'll get some honest opinions from him.

The fundamental error in that is that it is very hard to get an opinion from a dead man.

[Paul in NZ]

Bloody brilliant Zapf and Draco. Did an awesome job of getting the point across.

Agree'd - totally awesome job - very impressive and under such difficult circumstances as well. You did a good job!

[rainman]

Just seen this article on the Herald's site. Complete with links to these threads, under "Related Web links" at the bottom.

[paturoa]

But Transit's national operations manager, Dave Bates, denied there was much difference in cost between wire and steel barriers and said the main reason for using wire was its greater effectiveness in protecting most road users.

He could recall no previous deaths of motorcyclists hitting wire barriers and did not believe they would have much more of a chance against traditional W-section steel guard-rails.

Asked whether Transit might now review plans to extend the barriers, Mr Bates said it investigated every fatal crash on its network "to see whether there is in fact anything we can do".

He may have a point about the "W" barriers. I have seen several that go right to ground level with 2 layers of the W stuff.

How has the concrete barrier option dropped out of that?

I've had a look and can't find any cost comparisons between Wire, single row W, double row W and concrete. Would be good to get that in one place.

[Riff Raff]

Just seen this article on the Herald's site. Complete with links to these threads, under "Related Web links" at the bottom.

There's also a link there where they're asking for Your Views on whether Cheesecutters should be banned. I suggest we all reply.

[Disco Dan]

There's also a link there where they're asking for Your Views on whether Cheesecutters should be banned. I suggest we all reply.

Awsome RR, looks like people are starting to hear.

We need to organise this protest pretty quickly - while the media is still hot on the subject.

What about after Daniel's funeral on thursday????

[Skunk]

There's also a link there where they're asking for Your Views on whether Cheesecutters should be banned. I suggest we all reply.

Done. Good article in the Herald too.

But Transit's national operations manager, Dave Bates, denied there was much difference in cost between wire and steel barriers and said the main reason for using wire was its greater effectiveness in protecting most road users.

He could recall no previous deaths of motorcyclists hitting wire barriers and did not believe they would have much more of a chance against traditional W-section steel guard-rails.

Huh!?

[Daffyd]

There's also a link there where they're asking for Your Views on whether Cheesecutters should be banned. I suggest we all reply.

Could somebody post this link?
Don't worry...found it.

[cowpoos]

old lou featuring in the article huh!!! lmao!! was a well writen article I thought... I wonder who tipped the hearld off

[Brett]

Count me in for the protect 120%. Part of the public still hold the attitude that it was speed that killed and that if you obey the limit everything will be fine. We need to educate them on that. If a cage knocked a rider off at 60kph into those things they would be badly damaged. Public need to realise that there is more to the issue than a rider speeding that causes crashes. Some still dont get this.
Whatever we do needs to be highly organised (I will put my hand up to help with anything required) and needs to clearly and effectively communicate our stance and issues on this matter.
Perhaps to help fund our campaign we could do a KB collection fund. $10 each would be a good start and go quite a long way.

That twat from transit needs to go stick his head back under the sand, he has no fricken clue.

[janno]

I'm coming down to Wgtn from New Plymouth this weekend for the KB bash - would Saturday be too soon or difficult to organise some sort of protest ride?

But my thoughts are that it would be better to wait a week or three in order to organise maximum numbers rather than rush in and not get the backing from riders.

If enough riders come along, it will override the fact that it may be a few weeks after this latest death.

[cowpoos]

old lou featuring in the article huh!!! lmao!! was a well writen article I thought... I wonder who tipped the hearld off

on a side note...in that article the transit spokesman said that hitting a W section steel rail the out come would be much the same...thats bullshit...I hit one of those at about 130-140 back first...and I walked away!! a couple of cracked ribs and small flesh wond in my shoulder and a dent in my ego!! ain't no way in hell would I have walked away from a wire rope barrier,barring devine intervention!!