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    I suspect you will find there's a bylaw prohibiting parking anywhere in the CBD that's not an 'approved' parking place, if not something that specifically mentions parking on the footpath is prohibited.
    What I'm talking about is rather than try and fight this by protesting, throwing a tantrum, or by pursuing 'legal avenues' (which will fail if there's an applicable bylaw) is to reason with them. Summat along these lines:
    "There are ever-increasing numbers of bikes being ridden due to high petrol prices. Why not show that you are environmentally aware and encourage people to come into the CBD on bikes rather than cars, by providing more free parking for them? Furthermore, bikes parked in unconventional places where they are not obstructive have been previously overlooked; isn't it counter-productive to start penalising them now?"
    As support for this, there are examples of 'progressive' cities such as Melbourne, Sydney, London (bikes exempt from congestion charges) etc.
    ... and that's what I think.

    Or summat.


    Or maybe not...

    Dunno really....


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    Council chick is claiming that it's a nationwide LTSA "initiative", not an ACC one . Sounds bullshit. Anyone seeing any changes in other cities ?
    Quote Originally Posted by skidmark
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    Im sure bikers wouldnt mind so much if the ACC issued warnings for a month or so before they started tickiting people....

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    Some names are Rick Begood and Tim Dowdy.

    ACC are sticking with their claim that it's an LTSA 'initiative'
    Quote Originally Posted by skidmark
    This world has lost it's drive, everybody just wants to fit in the be the norm as it were.
    Quote Originally Posted by Phil Vincent
    The manufacturers go to a lot of trouble to find out what the average rider prefers, because the maker who guesses closest to the average preference gets the largest sales. But the average rider is mainly interested in silly (as opposed to useful) “goodies” to try to kid the public that he is riding a racer

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    I still need to sort out a ticket for parking on dotted yellows. (not as bad as it sounds)

    I'll make sure I either win, or get a name we can blame. I sooooo hope I can goad them into saying "park in car parks" - coz that will be mint for protests.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ixion View Post
    Council chick is claiming that it's a nationwide LTSA "initiative", not an ACC one . Sounds bullshit. Anyone seeing any changes in other cities ?
    Bullshit fer sher.
    LTSA have no administration over footpaths and central city streets - that's council turf.
    "Um... we don't actually have any basis for doing this... we can't say it was God or Satan ... the next best thing is to pin it on the LTSA..."

    EDIT:

    No wait - some bureaucrat decided we don't have enough farkin rules'n'regulations, so they dreamed up this: Draft Parking Controls legislation.
    ... and that's what I think.

    Or summat.


    Or maybe not...

    Dunno really....


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    TVNZ covered this in their breakfast show this morning. It is definitely an Auckland initiative, and being pushed by their new parking manager. Breakfast also stated that Auckland are planning on having parking space per city block dedicated to scooter parking in three named roads.
    Time to ride

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    This will eb the bit about grass verges

    From the LTSA website
    The Road User Rule currently indicate drivers may not drive on a lawn, garden or other cultivation but also advises drivers must not stop, stand or park on a roadway when it is reasonably practicable to do so on the road margin. To clarify the effect of a bylaw imposed in relation to parking on any grass area a road controlling authority is required to sign the restriction. An attempt was made to clarify this by amending the rule in 2006. Unfortunately, while there was a good measure of general support for the concept no consensus could be reached on the precise wording that would achieve a good coverage throughout the country both in urban and rural areas.

    Bear in mind also, that the LEGAL footpath is often a lot less than the width of the apparent footpath, because the bit next to the buildings is often the property of the building owener (the buildings have to be set back to allow for butresses, stairs etc). So parking in between "building bits" is NOT on the footpath
    Quote Originally Posted by skidmark
    This world has lost it's drive, everybody just wants to fit in the be the norm as it were.
    Quote Originally Posted by Phil Vincent
    The manufacturers go to a lot of trouble to find out what the average rider prefers, because the maker who guesses closest to the average preference gets the largest sales. But the average rider is mainly interested in silly (as opposed to useful) “goodies” to try to kid the public that he is riding a racer

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    Quote Originally Posted by vifferman View Post
    Bullshit fer sher.
    LTSA have no administration over footpaths and central city streets - that's council turf.
    "Um... we don't actually have any basis for doing this... we can't say it was God or Satan ... the next best thing is to pin it on the LTSA..."

    EDIT:

    No wait - some bureaucrat decided we don't have enough farkin rules'n'regulations, so they dreamed up this: Draft Parking Controls legislation.
    That doc just details the standards for signs etc. So that they are consistent throughour the country. We are mentioned , but just to say that motorcycle sparking is usually provided on an as required basis , and that pay and display doesn't work for motorcycles.
    Quote Originally Posted by skidmark
    This world has lost it's drive, everybody just wants to fit in the be the norm as it were.
    Quote Originally Posted by Phil Vincent
    The manufacturers go to a lot of trouble to find out what the average rider prefers, because the maker who guesses closest to the average preference gets the largest sales. But the average rider is mainly interested in silly (as opposed to useful) “goodies” to try to kid the public that he is riding a racer

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    I spent half an hour on the phone and got nowhere. Everyone was out to lunch. And no idea when they'd be abck. if ever. And its 'an LTSA initiative'. And 'it's the law'. And 'pissoff - aka you can leave a voicemail for him to call you back if you want'

    Some names - but no-ones admitting to being the demon policy changer

    Rick Begood
    Tim Dowdy (Extn 7204)
    Luke Watts (Team leader parking)
    Someone called 'Reece' he's a Parking Infringment Advisor, whatever that is.

    I'm trying to get hold of Brian Tomlinson (8760) , he's the capo de tutti capo. But be nice with him cos he rides himself and he's sort of sympathetic

    Lots of phone calls to those dudes might make them a bit unsettled.
    Quote Originally Posted by skidmark
    This world has lost it's drive, everybody just wants to fit in the be the norm as it were.
    Quote Originally Posted by Phil Vincent
    The manufacturers go to a lot of trouble to find out what the average rider prefers, because the maker who guesses closest to the average preference gets the largest sales. But the average rider is mainly interested in silly (as opposed to useful) “goodies” to try to kid the public that he is riding a racer

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    I spent half an hour on the phone and got nowhere. Everyone was out to lunch. And no idea when they'd be abck. if ever. And its 'an LTSA initiative'. And 'it's the law'. And 'pissoff - aka you can leave a voicemail for him to call you back if you want'

    Some names - but no-ones admitting to being the demon policy changer

    Rick Begood
    Tim Dowdy (Extn 7204)
    Luke Watts (Team leader parking)
    Someone called 'Reece' he's a Parking Infringment Advisor, whatever that is.

    I'm trying to get hold of Brian Tomlinson (8760) , he's the capo de tutti capo. But be nice with him cos he rides himself and he's sort of sympathetic

    Lots of phone calls to those dudes might make them a bit unsettled.


    (this is cross posted. There seem to be several trheads on this subject.)
    Quote Originally Posted by skidmark
    This world has lost it's drive, everybody just wants to fit in the be the norm as it were.
    Quote Originally Posted by Phil Vincent
    The manufacturers go to a lot of trouble to find out what the average rider prefers, because the maker who guesses closest to the average preference gets the largest sales. But the average rider is mainly interested in silly (as opposed to useful) “goodies” to try to kid the public that he is riding a racer

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnsf1980 View Post
    For years I have parked on the footpath and never been given a ticket... parking wardens have always said it was ok too as long as you parked to a side, etc.
    Simple fix... Don't park on the footpath... its a FOOTpath not a bike path... ah fuckit lets all drive on it as well...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ixion View Post
    Some names are Rick Begood and Tim Dowdy.

    ACC are sticking with their claim that it's an LTSA 'initiative'
    LTSA says that while it has always not been ok to park on the pavement they are not involved in enforcing that law and are definately not behind this new initiative by ACC - they say we should be speaking to ACC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NighthawkNZ View Post
    Simple fix... Don't park on the footpath... its a FOOTpath not a bike path... ah fuckit lets all drive on it as well...
    Quote Originally Posted by Marmoot

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    The simple fact that most main cities have a bylaw that states that parking on or obstruction of the footpath is a ticketable offence, allowing foot traffic (including those in wheel chairs) to easily pass or access doors and buildings etc and is usually at the discression of the parking warden. And Finally I will stuck to my orginal statement ... its a footpath...

    However if the vehicle in question was parked in between two buildings or in a correct area or area designated for parking then question it with the parking authorities...

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    ACC will be deep in negotiations with those bastards at Wilsons Parking.

    BTW: Love to know exactly what 's the deal and how they work the $$$$ on that.(as regards car parking)

    Some one mentioned Melbourne. MB parking in that city is so sorted but I did notice that none of them use any chains/locks or security. Maybe that is the rule there.

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