Top cop says bikers are incompetant and pissed

[Ixion]

That it is acceptable to drink and ride as long as you don't crash...........or am I missing the moral point here.

I know a guy (no, not me) who crashed on the way home from church. So, is it acceptable to worship and ride, as long as you don't crash? Morally speaking .

[Macstar]

I don't take the comments as an attack against bikers as such, merely valid observations. I really can't argue with his comments there.

However, I think the journalist has decided to take those comments and use them as basis for the strap, which then leads the reader on to the first par of the accidents, thus leading to the conclusion that the two are linked.

Once again, it comes down to an anti bike journo, I'd say.

Couldn't agree with you more. I think the copper has had his comments manipulated into a provacative article that is probably out of context. Typical media BS. I wouldn't pay too much attention to the article itself.

[Bonez]

It's the KB way that I've tried very hard to dispel. But it works both ways SD. Slag the cops in a general manner and there's plenty here who take it personal.

Skyyrder

I too will have a beer on that. Make that a Tui.

[James Deuce]

Once again, it comes down to an anti bike journo, I'd say.

I don't think many people are specifically anti-anything. I think the journo knew that there would be a stoush if they set up a biker vs cop story. That will generate more copy and create a bigger story.

If the reaction in this thread is anything to go by I'd say the journo in question is probably going to earn a nice little bonus.

[Grahameeboy]

I know a guy (no, not me) who crashed on the way home from church. So, is it acceptable to worship and ride, as long as you don't crash? Morally speaking .

That is a silly response Ixion cause you drink AND ride.....you ride to Church, you get off, you enter Church, you worship....sitting on a pew, not a motorbike, you finish worship, you leave Church and you ride away having finished worship............no link at all.

[janno]

I don't think many people are specifically anti-anything. I think the journo knew that there would be a stoush if they set up a biker vs cop story. That will generate more copy and create a bigger story.

If the reaction in this thread is anything to go by I'd say the journo in question is probably going to earn a nice little bonus.

When I was working in various newsrooms as a journo, none of us rode motorcycles and the general feeling was bikers are nutters. I don't expect that to have changed.

And back in the day, (10 years now!) no one got a bonus for breaking a huge story, let alone a minor one like this one. It's just another overworked, jaded hack banging out the party line IMHO. In a newsroom from my experience, you really do end up following the general consensus of things, if the ed doesn't change your copy the subs will, and in the end you just give in.

[Bonez]

When I was working in various newsrooms as a journo, none of us rode motorcycles and the general feeling was bikers are nutters. I don't expect that to have changed.(Snip!)

Welcome to the dark side. You could say KB is filled with an assortment of mixed nuts.

[BigG]

Nothing like a nice cold beer on these hot HB Roads. I will have one beer if I feel like it. Some guys ride stupid without a drink, ya could call me Born again but I bin riding for years now off road and on, had my share of prangs but its usualy someone or something else thats caused it. Cops seem to be targeting the motorcyclist now that there are so many on the road.
Plenty of track days to get your ability up and always someone willing to help other bikers. Nasty accident down in the Buller Gorge though HP didnt have is glasses on.

[Skyryder]

That is a silly response Ixion cause you drink AND ride.....you ride to Church, you get off, you enter Church, you worship....sitting on a pew, not a motorbike, you finish worship, you leave Church and you ride away having finished worship............no link at all.

That my be, but what about all the God like intoxication. Then there's the coming Rapture, speaking in tongues and the complexities of the sermon just to confuse you even more. Motorcycles can be ridden to church but not back home it's just to dangerouse. Ask Zed he saw the light.

Skyyrder

[Ixion]

That is a silly response Ixion cause you drink AND ride.....you ride to Church, you get off, you enter Church, you worship....sitting on a pew, not a motorbike, you finish worship, you leave Church and you ride away having finished worship............no link at all.

Actually, I have more than once worshipped my Lord whilst riding. "Look upon His handiwork, and give praise". But that is another matter. We are concerned with bornagain riders, pissed and crashing.

[Hitcher]

One would be interested to hear what Mr Tooman reports to BRONZ. It's nice to know that our top law enforcement personnel aren't above sweeping generalisations, personal prejudice and contempt.

[jrandom]

... the general feeling was bikers are nutters.

Ahem.

[Hitcher]

Then there's the coming Rapture

That happened 30 years ago. We're the left-overs, didn't you know?

[Grahameeboy]

That my be, but what about all the God like intoxication. Then there's the coming Rapture, speaking in tongues and the complexities of the sermon just to confuse you even more. Motorcycles can be ridden to church but not back home it's just to dangerouse. Ask Zed he saw the light.

Skyyrder

Are you saying I babble a lot........................

[janno]

Ahem.

Mate, back in the day before I got my licence I completely agreed with the party line. Mainly cos all I'd had to do with bikes was seeing them on the road exhibiting less than exemplary behaviour, and/or ridden by gang members.

So it's our perception in the eyes of joe public which is the real problem, IMHO. For example, Mr Plod could say "we are very concerned with the number of crack dealing little old ladies", yet the public would not immediately follow that line of thought as gospel, cos most of us know little old ladies who are perfectly narcotic free . . .