Engine oil help?

[HornetBoy]

Now as most of the manawatu guys and gals will know ive got a new bike recently ,and now its time to change the oil and im curious as to what type of oil i would use eg synthetic, mineral,semi etc it might be a learner question but hey ,

Now i know all about oil etc and what viscosity i need to use for my bike, but i dont know what benefit i would gain if i used semi synthetic or fully synthetic ...

Thanks in advance for ya help..

[Mom]

Just make a choice and stick with it, dont combine the 2. They both have merits. I am a mineral oil gal, call me oldfashioned

[HornetBoy]

Just make a choice and stick with it, dont combine the 2. They both have merits. I am a mineral oil gal, call me oldfashioned

ok so i don't have to prepare the bike or anything aye as in slowly top up the the mineral oil with synthetic oil until its completely synthetic oil in there ...

[Mom]

ok so i don't have to prepare the bike or anything aye as in slowly top up the the mineral oil with synthetic oil until its completely synthetic oil in there ...

You take the piss Sir. Read my post carefully.

"dont combine the 2"


But then I am mere female of negligable experience

[HornetBoy]

You take the piss Sir. Read my post carefully.

"dont combine the 2"


But then I am mere female of negligable experience

Woops yes u did say that im just getting advice saying to slowly combine until its only synthetic left but yea arggg.. might have to consult mr google search

[Mom]

Woops yes u did say that im just getting advice saying to slowly combine until its only synthetic left but yea arggg.. might have to consult mr google search

There are many on here able to give you advice on the best way of changing from mineral to synthetic oils (have you done a site search?) Unless technology has changed, in my experience combining mineral and vegetable oils will result in some sort of jelly mess that does not work so well as a lubricant.

You need to drain the existing oil out of a warm engine, replace the filter, then the oil. But you were asking the merits of mineral, versus synthetic oils. Wait to hear what others have to say.

[HornetBoy]

There are many on here able to give you advice on the best way of changing from mineral to synthetic oils (have you done a site search?) Unless technology has changed, in my experience combining mineral and vegetable oils will result in some sort of jelly mess that does not work so well as a lubricant.

You need to drain the existing oil out of a warm engine, replace the filter, then the oil. But you were asking the merits of mineral, versus synthetic oils. Wait to hear what others have to say.

yea ok,yea id say your right ,appreciate the help "mom"

[xwhatsit]

Well first of all you have to drain the old oil out I would've thought a modern bike like the Hornet would be using synthetic? Go to a bike shop and just ask their advice, they might even have the proper Honda book with the official factory recommendation. GiJoe1313 might be along shortly to tell you what he uses.

[HornetBoy]

Well first of all you have to drain the old oil out I would've thought a modern bike like the Hornet would be using synthetic? Go to a bike shop and just ask their advice, they might even have the proper Honda book with the official factory recommendation. GiJoe1313 might be along shortly to tell you what he uses.

Aha common problem with my KB name i actually have a full licence and ride a katana now so im actually asking about oil to be used in that .. shouldnt have put my engine rateing as my nickname

[Pwalo]

I suggest you log on to the katriders site. It's got everything you need to know about the GSXFs (it's American though so they can talk bollocks).

My advice would be to run a semi synthetic, and down load a manual for your bike to help with the oil changes. Dead simple when you've done it a couple of times.

[The Stranger:Me]

A little tip - If you look along the the menu bar near the top of your screen, toward the RHS, you will see something that says Search.

If you click on this you can enter various search terms and find out if this topic has been covered before.

[xwhatsit]

Aha common problem with my KB name i actually have a full licence and ride a katana now so im actually asking about oil to be used in that .. shouldnt have put my engine rateing as my nickname

Lol! Sorry Still stand by the bike-shop comment. Buying oil from them the first time will be more expensive, but you get the advice to go with it -- then next time get the same oil cheap from somewhere else ^_^

[vifferman]

Unless technology has changed, in my experience combining mineral and vegetable oils will result in some sort of jelly mess that does not work so well as a lubricant.

That's worngA.

Synthetic and mineral oils are in fact compatible, which is why there are "semi-synthetic" oils like Motul 5100, which is mineral oil 'fortified' with synthetic esters. Although given some of the weird colours oils are now, you may end up with a strange brew that clashes with your paintwork or the colour of your leathers.

The short answer is, you can stick any engine oil you want in your bike, as long as it's in the recommmmmended viscosity range for your bike. Just buy one of the reputable brands (Motul, Mobil, Motorex, Shell, Spectro, Elf, Dinospooge, Wombat, etc.)
I usually just choose by colour, smell and the extravagant claims made on the pack.

[HornetBoy]

That's worngA.

Synthetic and mineral oils are in fact compatible, which is why there are "semi-synthetic" oils like Motul 5100, which is mineral oil 'fortified' with synthetic esters. Although given some of the weird colours oils are now, you may end up with a strange brew that clashes with your paintwork or the colour of your leathers.

The short answer is, you can stick any engine oil you want in your bike, as long as it's in the recommmmmended viscosity range for your bike. Just buy one of the reputable brands (Motul, Mobil, Motorex, Shell, Spectro, Elf, Dinospooge, Wombat, etc.)
I usually just choose by colour, smell and the extravagant claims made on the pack.

Yea ok thought so just thought id get some info from some kiwi's not these crazy americans on the katana website im using Q8 semi synthetic at the moment so yea which is from the local suzuki outlet

[Ocean1]

That's worngA.

Synthetic and mineral oils are in fact compatible,

They are in fact the same thing. Synthetics have just been further refined to remove more of the unwanted bits and add different bits. They generally don't perform much better but they last longer in hot applications.

http://motorcycleinfo.calsci.com/Oils1.html

One of the better explanations I've seen.