Radar detectors could be banned

**puddytat** · 22nd December 2007, 20:02

Fuck the lot of 'em I reckon....

**Delphinus** · 22nd December 2007, 20:04

Are there any countries in the world that are actually reasonable in their laws? And dont just go for the easiest cheapest fix?

**Daza** · 22nd December 2007, 20:06

How will they go about phrasing this ban in over two years? Will it be illegal but have smaller fines to start with then fines go up after 2 years or what?

I just deleted a long winded post about the grey areas of the road code. Where i think a bit like in the States, you are more likely to be better off owning a gun than not, with the widely use/availability of guns over there. I guess there are two camps on this argument, but this isn't the place for that. But i hope you get what i mean.

What it boils down to (a no brainer statement i know) is is money to be made for the govern-mint. I don't think they will put a blackbox on our vehicles to physically force and limit speed to 100-110 only. Because there would be no money in fines for speeding. But i do see a future with road-tolling devices road-users are forced to pay for and have installed, that can backtrack your travels and calculate your average speed. The ultimate speeding fines method eh...

The best way to cook a Lobster unaware is very very slowly.

**Horse** · 23rd December 2007, 00:56

"What man?"

"The man from the cat detector van. I never seen so many bleedin' aerials!"

**RiderInBlack** · 23rd December 2007, 07:09

I take it that the Labour Party are sick of running this Country and want ta be voted out

The only reason I got a Detector was because I got sick of getting silly tickets for 111-119km on dead straight roads with sweet FA traffic on it. Had they not got more retentive I would not have bothered. As far as I'm concerned being done for 20km over on the open road is a fair cop.
Will banning Radar detectors stop real speeding? Yer Right

. This and other laws they are thinking about introducing, are going ta encourage drivers/riders ta try runners (which are inherently dangerous) more often (as it already has). This is going to lead to more accidents related to pursuits, which in-turn will lead to an increase in road fatalities.
They are just not thinking.

**civil** · 23rd December 2007, 07:41

Originally Posted by RiderInBlack

I The only reason I got a Detector was because I got sick of getting silly tickets for 111-119km on dead straight roads with sweet FA traffic on it.

What he said. I got mine after getting done for 61km/hr around the foreshore (SH1) of Lake Taupo at 6:15pm on a Friday night. Any slower and I would have been driving dangerously.

**davereid** · 23rd December 2007, 08:12

Originally Posted by civil

What he said. I got mine after getting done for 61km/hr around the foreshore (SH1) of Lake Taupo at 6:15pm on a Friday night. Any slower and I would have been driving dangerously.

Thats going to be the real piss-off with this law.

When I want to go fast, I pick twisty back-roads that are unlikely to be policed, (and that are hard to exceed the speed limit on anyway), I ride in a group so the police radar is in-effective, and only tail end charlie ever stops for a cop anyway. This won't change that, I'll still have plenty of fast, ticket-free rides.

But when I am essentially obeying the law, thats when I seem to get my tickets.

Like when I use a bit of extra squirt to get past the tosser who gases it up on the passing lane. Or I throttle off when the speed limits drops, but don't actually brake.

It will be so easy to get 100 points in two years.

**El Dopa** · 23rd December 2007, 08:47

Originally Posted by Daza

I don't think they will put a blackbox on our vehicles to physically force and limit speed to 100-110 only. Because there would be no money in fines for speeding. But i do see a future with road-tolling devices road-users are forced to pay for and have installed, that can backtrack your travels and calculate your average speed. The ultimate speeding fines method eh...

The best way to cook a Lobster unaware is very very slowly.

This has already been suggested in the UK.

One UK Europoll wanted an engine limiter for all new bikes sold in Europe which would basically turn itself on every time the speed reached 100 mph. No matter what the circumstances.

The UK has also already introduced a sophisticated camera/numberplate tracking system that is effectively country-wide, 'to help fight the war on terror'. Totally coincidentally, this system can be used to calculate average vehicle speeds and other data. Gosh, what a surprise.

**Delphinus** · 23rd December 2007, 09:12

Originally Posted by RiderInBlack

The only reason I got a Detector was because I got sick of getting silly tickets for 111-119km on dead straight roads with sweet FA traffic on it.

x2.
And its the only times that the detector is useful/saved me anyway.
Handy to know when not to overtake too.

**RiderInBlack** · 23rd December 2007, 09:33

Originally Posted by Daza

I don't think they will put a blackbox on our vehicles to physically force and limit speed to 100-110 only. Because there would be no money in fines for speeding. But i do see a future with road-tolling devices road-users are forced to pay for and have installed, that can backtrack your travels and calculate your average speed. The ultimate speeding fines method eh...

The best way to cook a Lobster unaware is very very slowly.

Texas Bill Would Require Transponders in All Cars. Not too much of a jump from that to using them for speed fines.

**Coyote** · 23rd December 2007, 09:54

Originally Posted by R1madness

Ok .Seems like they want to make life a little bit harder. If they ban detectors then i will start importing and selling jammers. they are also illegal but what the hell.

Sign me up. It'll go well with my blacked out, uninsured and derego'd insurance wreck ZX10R I plan to get in the near future.

Untill then, once the law is enforced, I'm going to put a TV ariel on my VFR and see what response I get.

**Coyote** · 23rd December 2007, 09:59

Originally Posted by Toaster

If you want a Government to be less meddling in your lives then vote for a change in Government.

To who? No group of politically minded people believe in freedom for the majority.

**Coyote** · 23rd December 2007, 10:04

Originally Posted by RiderInBlack

Texas Bill Would Require Transponders in All Cars. Not too much of a jump from that to using them for speed fines.

It's funny how the company "Texas Instruments" is the leading manufacturer of these transponders the Texas house of representatives wants all cars to have. I'm sure that's just a coincidence and there is no financial incentive to anyone involved...

**JayRacer37** · 23rd December 2007, 10:11

You know.....If they actually wanted to improve road safety, they would start with something sensible like making cell phone use illigal, and give $150,000 fines and 75 demerits for txt-ing and driving....easy to check too, just see when the last sent txt was timed and dated. I'll just keep my radar behind the sun-visor in the cage on suckers, and pull it off if i'm pulled over....