Radar detectors could be banned

[Coyote]

I'll chip in.

Interesting...

Could have another Isle of Mann if enough people want to participate

[Ixion]

The official NZ TT used to be run on Waiheke Island.

[Swoop]

OK so all posted speeds are safer? Yer Right. Pass Me A Tui's.

I find it rather intersting that a lot of roads have been signposted, for many years, at a certain speed.
Then along comes the council and "upgrades" the road by widening, straightening, etc.
THEN the road is signposted at a lower speed than what it was when in "poorer" condition.
East Coast Rd is a classic example. Used to be 70kmh, now 50.
Upper harbour dr, 100 now 70.

[mowgli]

I find it rather intersting that a lot of roads have been signposted, for many years, at a certain speed.
Then along comes the council and "upgrades" the road by widening, straightening, etc.
THEN the road is signposted at a lower speed than what it was when in "poorer" condition.
East Coast Rd is a classic example. Used to be 70kmh, now 50.
Upper harbour dr, 100 now 70.

The reason is most often urban development. Check section 3.1 of Land Transport Rule, Setting of Speed Limits 2003 for the definitions of 100, 70 and 50 and it becomes obvious.
100 - The level of roadside development is at a minimum.
70 - areas of intermediate roadside development, such as small country towns, urban fringe areas, short sections of road in partly built-up areas within a large urban traffic area or areas of single-sided development.
50 - In an urban traffic area, the urban speed limit indicates that drivers can expect to encounter vehicles that are turning, slowing, stopping or parking, pedestrians, cycles and heavy vehicles.

[23226]

How will they go about phrasing this ban in over two years? Will it be illegal but have smaller fines to start with then fines go up after 2 years or what?

I just deleted a long winded post about the grey areas of the road code. Where i think a bit like in the States, you are more likely to be better off owning a gun than not, with the widely use/availability of guns over there. I guess there are two camps on this argument, but this isn't the place for that. But i hope you get what i mean.

small note
Don't get caught with a radar detector driving through the part called State of Virginia, its illegal in that part.

[DougieNZ]

Its going to be interesting.

Say you have a detector hidden in your fairing with a small LED light (not a HARD system - that would be a givaway) on yoiur dash. You turn your detector off a soon as it alerts.

Would the police be able to search your vehicle for the detector? Surely "I'm sure it was that vehicle that was emitting the signal, your honour" would not be enough where 75 demerits and probable loss of licence was involved?

Or would the posession of a HARD system be enough to prove a radar detector was present?

[sinned]

It will be difficult to hide a detector on a bike. My Beltronics is sheilded so the device doesn't radiate and it is only a matter of hiding it from view. I am thinking of shoulder mounting in padded shoulders (might look like superman). Even hiding the detector in a cage is difficult as it should be in the cabin with a clear view front and rear. The headrest is a possible location.

[Ixion]

How did you shield it?

It will be interesting to see if they actually pass a law giving the cops the right to search a vehicle on the dubbious basis of a RDD ping.

[The Pastor]

I dont think the law will pass.

[sAsLEX]

How did you shield it?

It will be interesting to see if they actually pass a law giving the cops the right to search a vehicle on the dubbious basis of a RDD ping.

Ixion what is your view on the temporary speed limits that seem to be popping up all over the place? Are they avoiding gazetting changes?


I noted the road into Wellington right next to the coast, you know the cheesecutter one ?

Well anyways that has been 80 Km/hr for ages and yet is signed "temporary", is this as they are to lazy to correctly change the limit? Or are they actually going to reinstate the 100 limit...... I doubt it!

[Mr. Peanut]

All of us, including me, will have to slow down unless we want to lose the freedom to ride. Remember it is not a right, it is a privilege.

FUCK YOU!!!! It is a right! I PAY MY GODDAMN TAXES. MY ROADS!!!

[Ixion]

Ixion what is your view on the temporary speed limits that seem to be popping up all over the place? Are they avoiding gazetting changes?


I noted the road into Wellington right next to the coast, you know the cheesecutter one ?

Well anyways that has been 80 Km/hr for ages and yet is signed "temporary", is this as they are to lazy to correctly change the limit? Or are they actually going to reinstate the 100 limit...... I doubt it!

I have wondered about that myself. If you can identify the stretch of road so as to be indentifiable to a non-wellingtonian, I'll have BRONZ ask officially. Which will at least put them on notice that we are on to them.

[sAsLEX]

I have wondered about that myself. If you can identify the stretch of road so as to be indentifiable to a non-wellingtonian, I'll have BRONZ ask officially. Which will at least put them on notice that we are on to them.

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=e...&t=h&z=13&om=1

[sinned]

How did you shield it?

I didn't. It is a Beltronics XR which is built with shielding for extra cost.

[Badger8]

I find it rather intersting that a lot of roads have been signposted, for many years, at a certain speed.
Then along comes the council and "upgrades" the road by widening, straightening, etc.
THEN the road is signposted at a lower speed than what it was when in "poorer" condition.
East Coast Rd is a classic example. Used to be 70kmh, now 50.
Upper harbour dr, 100 now 70.

indeed. Did the run north (Auckland to Whangarei) in the cage over the christmas break, to find they have lowered the speed from 100 to 80 for a considerable stretch of the open rd (From around about dome valley to not far before wellsford for those who know the area)
It was painful sitting at around 85-90, and it was downright dangerous! people were tailgating me like anything, and passing me in ridiculous and dangerous places. i feel your pain guys, but i dont wanna be dishing out dosh and demerit points, as those roads are frequented by cops over this time of year (as they should be, nutters on that road never cease to amaze me every year)

These are (for the majority) straight open roads with very little stuff around (nothing in most places, just trees and grass). there's only a couple of corners where you've realistically got to lower your speed below 90 in good weather, and these have always been well signposted on the corners. I can appreciate many drivers out there lack any intuition and need to be told how fast to take a corner, but come on!

The reason is most often urban development. Check section 3.1 of Land Transport Rule, Setting of Speed Limits 2003 for the definitions of 100, 70 and 50 and it becomes obvious.
100 - The level of roadside development is at a minimum.
70 - areas of intermediate roadside development, such as small country towns, urban fringe areas, short sections of road in partly built-up areas within a large urban traffic area or areas of single-sided development.
50 - In an urban traffic area, the urban speed limit indicates that drivers can expect to encounter vehicles that are turning, slowing, stopping or parking, pedestrians, cycles and heavy vehicles.

I can fully appreciate the need for speed limits in areas like this. houses on side of road, cars coming and going, kids around, definitely a 50k zone.
Rolling countryside, trees and grass, the occasional turnoff (generally with it's own chevron'd turning lane), driveways here and there with plenty of room to pull off (and into) traffic safely (the odd exception of course) that has been 100kph forever, even years back when the road was in terrible condition, NO, that's definitely an 80kph zone now... stupid thing is it goes back to 100k a couple of minutes before you hit the 70k zone coming into wellsford. more built up area, more houses around, more people and traffic in general, definitely a 100k zone...

Urgh, Rant over... Just really gets under the skin at times...