More big brother

**FilthyLuka** · 9th January 2008, 16:12

Originally Posted by Mr Merde

A waste of time amd money it may be but it shows the government as a caring and sensitive entity that only wishes the best for those persons who are wise enough to entrust their well being to them.

hmm, interesting interpretation. See, im more for "the man's keeping me down" approach.

Again, like in the previous thread, unless they have some obnoxious fines for tampering with the device, there is no way its gonna stay on my bike for long.

**Big Dave** · 9th January 2008, 17:41

Originally Posted by Grahameeboy

It is just some Govt Official finding something to do and it will not go any further.

There are several Arthur C - Issac A visions of the future where the controls of personal 'transprotation' are not left to the individual.

Cyberdine systems hasta la vista baby.

**MotoGirl** · 9th January 2008, 18:06

Me thinks it's all a pipe dream. They make too many millions from fining us over speed-related offenses and they're not about to sacrifice that wee money spinner.

**Grahameeboy** · 9th January 2008, 18:25

Originally Posted by Big Dave

There are several Arthur C - Issac A visions of the future where the controls of personal 'transprotation' are not left to the individual.

Cyberdine systems hasta la vista baby.

Yep, wake me up when it happens..................

**swbarnett** · 9th January 2008, 18:33

Originally Posted by Conquiztador

Replace all motorvehicles with camels!

Lets see you try to speed with one of those fu@$ers!!!

The trouble is that if vehicle speeds drop, so will speed limits.

**Swoop** · 9th January 2008, 19:43

Originally Posted by Grahameeboy

You guys are a worry. Do you really believe for one minute that the Govt is going to impose speed limiters on cars.

I didn't believe they would have been so stupid as to insist on microchipping dogs as a "solution" to vicious dog attacks... But guess what they did?

Speaking of which, we haven't had a dog attack for a while. We are obviously overdue for one (or the micro fush 'n chups are doing their job - Yeah Right!)

**Nagash** · 9th January 2008, 19:48

Well I don't think anyone thinks this'll actually happen, so why are the government even discussing it? Everything happens so slowly that they don't have time to waste on things like this.

Plenty of other issues which shoud be their sole priority, road standards are a big one for me.. road works coming out worse then the original road was..

**Grahameeboy** · 9th January 2008, 20:14

Originally Posted by Swoop

I didn't believe they would have been so stupid as to insist on microchipping dogs as a "solution" to vicious dog attacks... But guess what they did?

Speaking of which, we haven't had a dog attack for a while. We are obviously overdue for one (or the micro fush 'n chups are doing their job - Yeah Right!)

The micro chip was to provide data on dogs for travel purposes to avoid long quarantine periods.

But hey if dog attacks are down then it does not sound so stupid eh?

**Grahameeboy** · 9th January 2008, 20:15

Originally Posted by Nagash

Well I don't think anyone thinks this'll actually happen, so why are the government even discussing it? Everything happens so slowly that they don't have time to waste on things like this.

Plenty of other issues which shoud be their sole priority, road standards are a big one for me.. road works coming out worse then the original road was..

It is what MP's do to try and score points etc

**Swoop** · 9th January 2008, 20:29

Originally Posted by Grahameeboy

The micro chip was to provide data on dogs for travel purposes to avoid long quarantine periods.

Correct answer, if you are planning to vote labour.
Or for a Tui billboard.

**Spyked** · 9th January 2008, 20:57

Originally Posted by Grahameeboy

The micro chip was to provide data on dogs for travel purposes to avoid long quarantine periods.

But hey if dog attacks are down then it does not sound so stupid eh?

Funny but I attended the select committee hearings for the Dog Control Act and no mention was made of this?
They did state however that their intention was to gain positive proof of ownership in the case of an attack or if the dog was picked up as a stray. That way they know who to fine. Sounds kind of familiar doesn't it?
From the stats I've seen, dog attacks have remained at much the same level and the estimates for the numbers of unregistered animals has actually increased, probably due to the increase in fee's.
So, was the intention actually to do anything that would genuinely attempt reduce the number of attacks or was it just a cynical exercise that has increased costs to the mostly law abiding but silent majority.
The parallels with the debate about speeding and the road toll are all too obvious.
Therefore, yeah, pretty stupid eh!

**Big Dave** · 10th January 2008, 00:38

Originally Posted by Grahameeboy

Yep, wake me up when it happens..................

Driverless cars 'on market in 10 years'

AAP, 08/01/08

Cars that drive themselves - even parking at their destination - could be ready for sale within a decade, General Motors executives say.

A GM-sponsored Chevrolet Tahoe 4WD took first prize in a recent competition for driverless cars.

Cars that drive themselves - even parking at their destination - could be ready for sale within a decade, General Motors executives say.
GM, parts suppliers, university engineers and other automakers all are working on vehicles that could revolutionise short- and long-distance travel. And Tuesday at the Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas GM Chief Executive Rick Wagoner will devote part of his speech to the driverless vehicles.
"This is not science fiction," Larry Burns, GM's vice president for research and development, said in a recent interview.

**Grahameeboy** · 10th January 2008, 03:03

Originally Posted by Big Dave

Driverless cars 'on market in 10 years'

AAP, 08/01/08

Cars that drive themselves - even parking at their destination - could be ready for sale within a decade, General Motors executives say.

A GM-sponsored Chevrolet Tahoe 4WD took first prize in a recent competition for driverless cars.

Cars that drive themselves - even parking at their destination - could be ready for sale within a decade, General Motors executives say.
GM, parts suppliers, university engineers and other automakers all are working on vehicles that could revolutionise short- and long-distance travel. And Tuesday at the Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas GM Chief Executive Rick Wagoner will devote part of his speech to the driverless vehicles.
"This is not science fiction," Larry Burns, GM's vice president for research and development, said in a recent interview.

Well NZ should be the test bed given the standard of driving.

However, GM will no doubt say it is possible but in reality will it be introduced. Battery powered vehicles as fast as petrol driven vehicles are possible but not a lot of action, more effecient means of combustion, better than current means have been known for years but not introduced.

**mowgli** · 10th January 2008, 06:29

I went to a departmental briefing a couple of years ago on the new European satellite navigation system called Galileo. This is a commercial system (Navstar is a US DoD creation) and as I recall the application they were pushing hardest with governments was the ability to administer congestion charges and road tolls. Basically tax the begesus out of anyone who dares to drive on main roads during busy periods.

I think speed control is a red herring folks.

BTW Galileo will use two frequencies for its public service (currently only available to Military and specialist users with Navstar). This will eliminate atmospheric errors and give 4-8m accuracy so adjacent roads will not be an issue.