Tales from the Emporium

[NordieBoy]

Hmmm...
I think the difference is that the 152ish jet is a modified Mikuni and it looks like they have a taper inside vs the DJ's flat and because of the taper the needle clears the jet sooner as it's lifting.

Or something.

Back to the 155DJ until I get another 150DJ to play with.

[warewolf]

Exactly the same chains EK MVXZ.

Did both go on all-new sprockets etc? One old component of the three will cause premature wear.

Thinner or less stick to be more precise is the oil I was aiming for. The scott oil seems a bit like air filter oil to me - not very viscous but very sticky. I'm not sure that the scotty oil would be engine oil diluted - it is rather more sticky than that. I want something like a regular car oil that is not sticky and will just keep buggering off. I have plenty of 90w diff oil from 4wd days hence why going to give that a spin.

That sounds like a good plan; 90W diluted 30% with kero. I didn't mean to imply genuine scottoil was 20W with kerosene, but rather that's a home-recipe substitute. Some people use their old sump oil in the scottie; don't know that I'd want all those by-products and wear particles etc being dumped on my drive train.

Scottoil shouldn't be too sticky. I've never noticed that characteristic, but haven't used one much in the dirt. I've got an old Motrax electric one that I'm going to fit up to the adventure, if I can be bothered.

I think it was on Visordown that a ScottOiler engineer piped up with the tidbit that they use a modified auto trans fluid.

Highly modified. It was analysed in NZ during a shortage by a Shell engineer in order to find a close replacement - no can do! Way too many additives. One thing it does have, which may contribute to its stickiness - is something to make it wick/spread across the chain.

[Transalper]

Did both go on all-new sprockets etc? One old component of the three will cause premature wear.

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Think you will find when installing a new chain we both ALWAYS install new sprockets at each end too... so yes all new.

[warewolf]

Think you will find when installing a new chain we both ALWAYS install new sprockets at each end too... so yes all new.

Me too. Man that's a big difference between you though, innit?

[cooneyr]

Did both go on all-new sprockets etc? One old component of the three will cause premature wear.

Yep - everything new. Replaced enough treadly bits to have learnt that lesson. Use to do about 4000kms+ a year on the treadly (for about 5 year) and was replacing stuff every 800-1000kms. Got bloody annoying so went and got a a Rohloff 14 speed hub. Payed for itself now so I dont have to ride the bike anymore

That sounds like a good plan; 90W diluted 30% with kero. I didn't mean to imply genuine scottoil was 20W with kerosene, but rather that's a home-recipe substitute. Some people use their old sump oil in the scottie; don't know that I'd want all those by-products and wear particles etc being dumped on my drive train.

First lot of 90w in. Will report back in due course. Might get thinned but first round isnt. I'm pretty sure TA did most of his 10000 on road with a nicely oiled chain where as my 4000 was mostly off road and I wasnt using the scotty right. Chain was only just wet hence grinding paste not cleaning. Have had a chat with TA so am going to try the drown the barsted method for the next while.

Cheers R

[Transalper]

Hey.... I may have done half my 10343K on seal but I still done about 3000km in the dirt too, hard to say exactly but since I spend a lot of time chasing you around a lot of your dirt is shared by my chain... although I can think of a couple of rides I didn't get to... you guys at Big River for one.

[cooneyr]

Hey.... I may have done half my 10343K on seal but I still done about 3000km in the dirt too, hard to say exactly but since I spend a lot of time chasing you around a lot of your dirt is shared by my chain... although I can think of a couple of rides I didn't get to... you guys at Big River for one.

Yes much dirt shared, you just have a better handle on how to use the scotty I think

Cheers R

[warewolf]

Got bloody annoying so went and got a a Rohloff 14 speed hub.

Nice

I wasnt using the scotty right.

If it's any consolation, the first 1.5 chains I ran with the Scottoiler only lasted as long as with spray lube. Two issues: leaks in the delivery hose causing it to stop dripping and the delivery nozzle hanging in the air meant the oil was being delivered to the wheel not the chain. Found & fixed the leaks, and positioned the dripper to deliver the oil to the side of the rear sprocket - as in, the nozzle resting on the sprocket, so the oil is flung off the sprocket onto the chain.

[cooneyr]

If it's any consolation, the first 1.5 chains I ran with the Scottoiler only lasted as long as with spray lube. Two issues: leaks in the delivery hose causing it to stop dripping and the delivery nozzle hanging in the air meant the oil was being delivered to the wheel not the chain. Found & fixed the leaks, and positioned the dripper to deliver the oil to the side of the rear sprocket - as in, the nozzle resting on the sprocket, so the oil is flung off the sprocket onto the chain.

Had a single sided delivery head and now have a twin. Oil is defiantly getting onto the sprocket and hence the chain - no leaks in the tubing. Just need to be a bit more liberal with the oil use I thinks.

Cheers R

[GaZBur]

I reckon transalpers sprocket is that bad because of dust. Here's a pic of my 15 tooth at 10,000Km and the wear is OK. Although you would expect a lot of wear to occur during racing it appears not. I would guess that a gravel road jaunt is far harder on machinery than a day on the track as I have hardly used it much in gravel.
As for NordieBoys sprocket - it's a trick. He has cunningly disguised his throwing stars as sprockets so we won't know he moonlights as a Ninja assasin!!!

[NordieBoy]

But that's an OEM one, made of the good stuff.

Nooo! Moonlight is bad! Moonless nights are better for us to... Um... Nothing to see here, move right along

It makes a hell of a clunk when you throw it at the wooden fence though

[cooneyr]

I'm giving a factory sprocket a run this time rather than a JT. Was quoted $34 for the Suzi sprocket (which took two bloody weeks to arrive from Japan - why does nobody stock part??) which I had to pay for up front. When it arrived I got told I was misquoted and it is actually $53. I made a little bit of noise and got $5 or so off but still pissed me off. Anyway hopefully it will last a bit longer than the JT with proper oiling and being hopefully getter quality.

Cheers R

[NordieBoy]

Was quoted $34 for the Suzi sprocket (which took two bloody weeks to arrive from Japan - why does nobody stock part??

Cause everyone gets the JT ones

$34 does sound more like a JT sprocket price.

[Crisis management]

Somebodies ripping you guys off here......
I bought a genuine spewzuki 14 tooth front sprocket at the end of last year for $30.00 from the local dealer, infact the previous 15 tooth one was the same price (about a year ago).

For a small phenomenal fee I can ship anything you want?????

I love Colemans suzuki!

[cooneyr]

Somebodies ripping you guys off here......
I bought a genuine spewzuki 14 tooth front sprocket at the end of last year for $30.00 from the local dealer, infact the previous 15 tooth one was the same price (about a year ago).

For a small phenomenal fee I can ship anything you want?????

I love Colemans suzuki!

Me thinks thats where the initial quoted price of $34 came from. As for the final price well either the price has gone up (any body else want to buy one to confirm this) or I'm special

Cheers R