Stung $400

**scumdog** · 28th December 2007, 07:35

Originally Posted by awayatc

$400 is a lot of money, and not at all in proportion to the severity off the "crime" committed.
I feel for the youngsters that have to fork it out.!

But when they 'signed-up' they knew the score, they knew the conditions of the Licence.

How they handle it is up to them - if they are the ones without the 'L' then they risk whatever comes their way.

I believe it's an ego/peer pressure (which IS related to ego) thing this not wanting to have an 'L' plate on their bike..

**sunhuntin** · 28th December 2007, 08:03

Originally Posted by scumdog

But when they 'signed-up' they knew the score, they knew the conditions of the Licence.

How they handle it is up to them - if they are the ones without the 'L' then they risk whatever comes their way.

I believe it's an ego/peer pressure (which IS related to ego) thing this not wanting to have an 'L' plate on their bike..

agreed... its not hard to avoid tickets and stay on the right side of the law.

**Chill** · 29th December 2007, 09:01

Never use my L plate, instead I scuffed it up a bit and kept in in the back of my jacket, hoping that if I was stopped I'd get off by saying it had fallen off. Luckily I never had to use that lame excuse.

**Weaver** · 30th December 2007, 20:38

My L-Plate is hiding behind my number plate as shown in picture. I have been pulled over by the police for speeding and he didn't say it wasn't visible enough.
But I have never noticed the cars tail gating, etc

**Pancakes** · 2nd January 2008, 10:17

Originally Posted by Hawkeye

Pull your head in. Who is argueing. Just making a statement about something I have read. I never said it was fact - Or is it illegal to post anything on this forum unless you are the leading expert in the field? Maybe that's why you have only posted 8 times in the last 8 months. No discussions happening in you specialized field.

As stated in an earlier post (quoted below) there has been references made to it which is where I was coming from. Just couldn't remember in what context it was being used.

Does someones post count mean anything apart from how long they have spent combing KB which, in my eyes has it's own cool-ometer that is disconnected from the real world. There are KB truths you never break even if they're wrong (post count giving weight to someones side of a point being one).

You posted info and didn't mis-represent it, you told everyone it was overheard but you also said you didn't go o the M'Ways the whole time you were on your learners? I recon this would hinder your learning not help it.

J_P, good post, relevant and on topic, +1, people will read this thread for info like this and you have come up with the goods and a link to the source. Just ignore the haters. You don't have to reply, people with eye's can see how things play out.

**rphenix** · 2nd January 2008, 20:37

Originally Posted by redliner

Me and mate both got stung $400 for no L-plates yesterday

We werent doing over 70kph or nething. Still not gona use ma L-plate because drivers sit up ur ass!!!! Other learners beware of the quoter filling 50

Bad luck! get your Restricted ASAP?

**CookMySock** · 19th February 2008, 07:30

Originally Posted by Grub

(re tailgaters)
- To get them to back off a bit, this really works. Adjust your position on the road to be directly in front of their eyes. They were looking past you as if you weren't there, now they can't see. They will shift left/right so they can see - get in their line of sight again. I have ever only had to adjust my position in front of them a max of 4 times before seeing them drop back because they're running blind

It works, it's non-combative and they don't even know that you're controlling their position on the road. Report back to the thread when you've tried it

Another way is to adjust your speed up and down A VERY SMALL AMOUNT so they have to concentrate like hell. Excelerate GENTLY away and as the gap opens up EASE off the gas so they have to brake as they are still speeding up. It only takes 60 seconds or so before they are like "fuck this" and they back off or pass. Don't make any sudden moves doing this or you will be instantly underneath the tailgater in question - a bad look.

This can be uncomfortable for your passenger(s), so dont do it if they dont like it.

DB

**Blossom** · 19th February 2008, 08:11

I am about to get my learners and rest assured tailgaters or not I will be using it faithfully. Why? firstly we have 4 children 2 of whom are not that far off getting into riding themselves and we want to lead by example. It may only be a loser plate to some but to my kids its about whether or not I obey the law. Kids are more police like than the cops are. lol. Secondly I am proud of getting my 6L. So I dont think of it as a loser plate.
On the topic of tailgating... As others have said when you first start riding, anyone behind you is too close. Perception is a strange beast when it comes to learning to ride or drive.

**Ragingrob** · 19th February 2008, 08:35

Lol just c'mon and tell us how you attracted any attention?? Cops don't usually just pull everyone over at random, so what were ya up to? Stalling all over the place and wobbling around?

**CookMySock** · 19th February 2008, 09:22

hrm it seems to me that newbs should not be so afraid of the traffic. All these nasty stories are not helpful to newbs, who spend a lot more time reassuring themselves than they do facing REAL ACTUAL problems.

Newbs, please don't worry too much. Cagers aren't ALL trying to kill you ok ? Someone may neg rep me for saying this, but I don't care

you are going to be fine on your learners license - don't put too much stead in the horrific stories you hear. I don't think anyone here has ACTUALLY been run down and gone underneath a car while on their learners license, so quite likely you can relax.

DB

**faredce** · 19th February 2008, 09:54

L plates are there to let others know u are learning!!

so wen ppl are smart arses and ride close or toot wen u stall or whatever. i just think they are tools who find their mothers sexually attractive and they can go to hell.
every1 has a learning phase and all our concentration goes on our bike and our riding environment. its the last thing we need.

BUT in saying that i dont have the money to pay fines and u only need the plates for 6months. so put them on

**Blossom** · 19th February 2008, 10:26

Originally Posted by DangerousBastard

hrm it seems to me that newbs should not be so afraid of the traffic. All these nasty stories are not helpful to newbs, who spend a lot more time reassuring themselves than they do facing REAL ACTUAL problems.

Newbs, please don't worry too much. Cagers aren't ALL trying to kill you ok ? Someone may neg rep me for saying this, but I don't care

you are going to be fine on your learners license - don't put too much stead in the horrific stories you hear. I don't think anyone here has ACTUALLY been run down and gone underneath a car while on their learners license, so quite likely you can relax.

DB

Thankyou for that... I admit I have not been on a bike for 5 yrs and after reading this was getting a bit girly on it.

no neg rep from me

**BiK3RChiK** · 19th February 2008, 12:47

Originally Posted by Blossom

I am about to get my learners and rest assured tailgaters or not I will be using it faithfully. Why? firstly we have 4 children 2 of whom are not that far off getting into riding themselves and we want to lead by example. It may only be a loser plate to some but to my kids its about whether or not I obey the law. Kids are more police like than the cops are. lol. Secondly I am proud of getting my 6L. So I dont think of it as a loser plate.
On the topic of tailgating... As others have said when you first start riding, anyone behind you is too close. Perception is a strange beast when it comes to learning to ride or drive.

I use my L-plate too... Everyone has to go through the graduated licencing system now if they want a licence, so who cares? Slap the L-plate on or get a ticket!

My kids are also approaching the driving age {gulp} and you are right about setting the appropriate example etc, etc... My kids tell me when the wof & regn are due too! Talk about little police! LOL

M

**BiK3RChiK** · 19th February 2008, 12:52

Originally Posted by DangerousBastard

hrm it seems to me that newbs should not be so afraid of the traffic. All these nasty stories are not helpful to newbs, who spend a lot more time reassuring themselves than they do facing REAL ACTUAL problems.

Newbs, please don't worry too much. Cagers aren't ALL trying to kill you ok ? Someone may neg rep me for saying this, but I don't care

you are going to be fine on your learners license - don't put too much stead in the horrific stories you hear. I don't think anyone here has ACTUALLY been run down and gone underneath a car while on their learners license, so quite likely you can relax.

DB

+1 Hun

You really do make sense sometimes...