Bike Cop must have been low on quota

[Fub@r]

I was passing the vehicle on the right (in the same lane) and cop pulls me over and says I cant do that.

I've done that to a marked motorway patrol car on the NW, cop didn't care.

Had other examples where bikes have been queued up behind a pair of biker cops, all being too scared to test the law only to have the biker cops turn in their seat to wave us through.

They need to be consistent, granted if someone is being an idiot and doing high speed whilst splitting ping him, but to get pinged for doing 40-50kph safetly on a technicality is ridiculous

[scracha]

This is starting to sound really strange to me. I lane split every day on the Northern motorway and I seldom have any problems. I can't remember the last time anyone even thought about moving in to my "lane".

Likewise. I reckon some folk just can't "read" and anticipate what the cars ahead will do.

Put it this way, they'd have to quadruple the fines for filtering before I stopped doing it. It's one of the main reasons for riding a bike on the road. The risk of a few hundred bucks a year in fines is a small price to pay for not sitting behind some stinky bus in the hot sun for ages.

[Banesto John]

3. When instructed to by a Police Officer, I believe.

Nope. 3. When there are lanes marked on the road.

[igor]

I shall pass onto the Officer concerned the link to this thread, lets hold a sweepstake to see how long it takes him to get you again .

and Scummy yes he is ex MOT but b4 that he was a county Mounty out of Auckland. great guy into bikes. but u should no this. I could explain how the QIDs work but its just two exciting

prior to 92 in 89 the MOT swallowed up the County Mounties in ACC - Tamaki -Mt Albert - Napier and Inverbreedville (home of the 6 fingered banjo players.) So they got renumbered onto end of MOT numbers. Then there was 2 more MOT course of about 50 Gys/girls b4 Police takeover and all the chocky frogs QID's got tagged on the end, b4 the real Policeman haha started getting numbers again at around F160.

[scumdog]

I shall pass onto the Officer concerned the link to this thread, lets hold a sweepstake to see how long it takes him to get you again .

and Scummy yes he is ex MOT but b4 that he was a county Mounty out of Auckland. great guy into bikes. but u should no this. I could explain how the QIDs work but its just two exciting

prior to 92 in 89 the MOT swallowed up the County Mounties in ACC - Tamaki -Mt Albert - Napier and Inverbreedville (home of the 6 fingered banjo players.) So they got renumbered onto end of MOT numbers. Then there was 2 more MOT course of about 50 Gys/girls b4 Police takeover and all the chocky frogs QID's got tagged on the end, b4 the real Policeman haha started getting numbers again at around F160.

Ah, MOST of the Ernies I met before I was in the job were OK, - just the odd pedantic one gave the rest a bad name. (sound familiar??)

Thanks for the info - I'm too young to know all that stuff.

[bert_is_evil]

Attached is a response from Inspector Ian James to a letter from Kiwirider mag re when you can and can't. I keep a printed copy in my jacket pocket just in case. Hopefully this isn't a repost or I'm in the kak with the repost police.

[Swoop]

only thing im shitted about are these new red light cameras coming in cause they get bikes as well

Why be concerned about these? Heavily fining AND demeriting drivers is a fu*king LONG overdue response.
Kiwi drivers need to be shot for red light running.
It is fu*king dangerous.

only in the cbd it was on closeup last night but with the advent of demerit points for red light running you stand to lose your licence over it,theyre operating now but only on trial and you dont get ticketed till may

Not soon enough. Do it NOW.

[swbarnett]

Why be concerned about these? Heavily fining AND demeriting drivers is a fu*king LONG overdue response.
Kiwi drivers need to be shot for red light running.
It is fu*king dangerous.

It's extremely arrogant and counter-productive to reducing congestion but considering how often it happens in the Auckland CBD is it really that dangerous? How often do vehicles actually connect?

The problem with heavy demerits and fines is that you have to fit the punishment to the crime. Going three quarters of the way to losing your license for one occurrence is a bit steep.

[WarlockNZ]

I'm just going to step in here and stop this thread hijack.

This is not about red light camera's, if you want to talk about that, go and start a red light camera thread, I'll chime in with my 2 cents if you do.

in the mean time.

I shall pass onto the Officer concerned the link to this thread, lets hold a sweepstake to see how long it takes him to get you again . :

I'm sure he already knows about it, he is a member of the site after all

Let's see, what's the action on that sweepstake??, if you give me some good odds, I could be in .. LOL

[Swoop]

It's extremely arrogant and counter-productive to reducing congestion but considering how often it happens in the Auckland CBD is it really that dangerous? How often do vehicles actually connect?

Try asking that to someone who has been t-boned by one of these retards who run the red.
Red-light running isn't about "traffic congestion", it is more centered on the "I'm king of the road - fuck everyone else" mentality.

The problem with heavy demerits and fines is that you have to fit the punishment to the crime. Going three quarters of the way to losing your license for one occurrence is a bit steep.

It looks fine to me. If people are not paying attention to a simple thing like a traffic light, how much attention are they giving to other road users? Take their licence away!!!

[swbarnett]

Try asking that to someone who has been t-boned by one of these retards who run the red.

This does not mean that running a red light has a high probability of turning into an accident. Don't get me wrong, I hate red light runners too. I just don't think they deserve to be removed from the road until they are proven to be recidivist offenders.

Red-light running isn't about "traffic congestion", it is more centered on the "I'm king of the road - fuck everyone else" mentality.

Or it could simply be that people know there's about 2 seconds on most intersections where everyone has the red and they think they can take advantage of this. Resynchronise the lights and most of the red light running will go away (after a few collisions admittedly).

It looks fine to me. If people are not paying attention to a simple thing like a traffic light, how much attention are they giving to other road users? Take their licence away!!!

Are you suggesting that one momentary lapse of concentration makes a person unfit to drive? Hell, we better close the roads, nobody will be allowed to drive.

We have to make some allowance for human falability.

[Fub@r]

It's extremely arrogant and counter-productive to reducing congestion but considering how often it happens in the Auckland CBD is it really that dangerous? How often do vehicles actually connect?

The problem with heavy demerits and fines is that you have to fit the punishment to the crime. Going three quarters of the way to losing your license for one occurrence is a bit steep.

Sorry Warlock, my 2 cents:

About once a week on average I have near misses with red light runners, and no I don't race off from the lights on the green.......I ride a Hyosung, so its not physically possible

In particular is the Fanshawe and Halsey St intersection, everyone runs the turning signal from the city side turning in to Halsey St Viaduct side. It has improved recently as I've noticed the cops pinging quite a few of them lately as they get pulled over right outside my office.

Also red light running is defined as the light turning red before you enter in to the intersection ie: cross the lane line. I had this argument with a cop over Christmas where he was 100m behind me and he said I ran a light. So I pointed out to him I had already entered the intersection before it changed so therefore was ok.....hence no ticket.

Also there is a delay between one light going red and the other going green. If you have the green and start across an intersection and a bus or car comes flying through they deserve to get nailed, hell hit them with Dangerous Driving infringment!

[Ixion]

Are you suggesting that one momentary lapse of concentration makes a person unfit to drive? Hell, we better close the roads, nobody will be allowed to drive.

We have to make some allowance for human falability.

Nothing to do with lapse of concentration. I see this all the time. They actually accelerate to try to run the light.

I'll come up to a light, oh red, OK, stop, easy peasy, 5 seconds later the dick behind me roars through the red light. I can see him floor it when the light changes.

[ManDownUnder]

Nothing to do with lapse of concentration. I see this all the time. They actually accelerate to try to run the light.

Hell yes!

Sit at the top of the NW motorway any weeknight and watch them do it. Cops would make a fortune sitting there ticketing car after car. You can hear them gas it as soon as there's a hint of orange in the signal....

[jrandom]

Also red light running is defined as the light turning red before you enter in to the intersection...

Bollocks.

Red light running is defined as failing to observe the rule that a yellow light means 'stop if it is safe to do so'.

If you enter an intersection on a yellow light when you could have stopped safely, you're ticketable.