Bike Cop must have been low on quota

[scumdog]

I have read all the posts. What I'm trying to say is that intentionally and accidentally going through a red light are not the same thing. While I accept that both deserve a ticket I don't believe that they should be treated the same. They are quite different.

Sort of like accidently being over the limit after drinking and getting caught driving and deliberately and intentionally driving drunk??

I'm sure the person who gets hit by the drunk drivier will appreciate the difference...

[swbarnett]

Sort of like accidently being over the limit after drinking and getting caught driving and deliberately and intentionally driving drunk??

I'm sure the person who gets hit by the drunk drivier will appreciate the difference...

Well, if someone gets caught over the limit and is genuinely of the "oh shit, I'll cut down on how many drinks I have before driving" attitude then I'd definitely treat them with more leniency than someone with the "I know I'm pissed and I'm going to drive anyway" attitude.

It's about treating every case on it's own merits and not treating every naughty boy like they're Adolf Hitler.

[scumdog]

Well, if someone gets caught over the limit and is genuinely of the "oh shit, I'll cut down on how many drinks I have before driving" attitude then I'd definitely treat them with more leniency than someone with the "I know I'm pissed and I'm going to drive anyway" attitude.

It's about treating every case on it's own merits and not treating every naughty boy like they're Adolf Hitler.

I doubt YOU will get the chance to treat the 1st drink drivers who had 'been drinking but shit didn't think I was over the limit' with leniency.

But the JUDGE doesn't care whether they knew they were pissed and drove anyway or just didn't realise they were over the limit.

(BTW Given the chance 99% would say they were in the second catagory if they thought they would get a lighter sentence, hence judges tend to be sceptic about the above explanation).

[swbarnett]

I doubt YOU will get the chance to treat the 1st drink drivers who had 'been drinking but shit didn't think I was over the limit' with leniency.

But the JUDGE doesn't care whether they knew they were pissed and drove anyway or just didn't realise they were over the limit.

(BTW Given the chance 99% would say they were in the second catagory if they thought they would get a lighter sentence, hence judges tend to be sceptic about the above explanation).

Therein lies the problem. Because it's perceived that everyone is just out for themselves even the relatively innocent get tarred along with the deliberately guilty. There is far too much cynicism.

I'd like to think that first time offenders are treated more leniently than recidivists. But that's probably a bit optimistic. (There I go being a cynic myself).

[discotex]

Therein lies the problem. Because it's perceived that everyone is just out for themselves even the relatively innocent get tarred along with the deliberately guilty. There is far too much cynicism.

Isn't that why no single offence give enough demerits to lose your licence? Sure the points are heavy but maybe that'll make you think twice about running red lights when you've already loaded up on speeding tickets.

I'd like to think that first time offenders are treated more leniently than recidivists. But that's probably a bit optimistic. (There I go being a cynic myself).

Surely if you are of the "whoops I accidentally ran a red" camp you'll be fine as you will already have 0 demerit points. On the other hand if you habitually flout the laws that incur demerit points you will lose your licence.

The same goes with driving over the limit. Clearly a judge will be more lenient on someone with who is 1mcg over the limit than someone 50mcg.

Unfortunately the scale between first time and 10th offence seems a bit out of whack. Getting to 10th time without prison time (or a 6 month stay in rehab) and lifetime loss of licence I just don't understand.

[BANZAI]

Brind the old thread back.

Just recently I get pulled over by same cop, officer# KSF016 who rides Honda.

Reason was lane splitting and then doing 100kmph on port offramp with L-plate...(Most of my mates misreaded this, I wasnt doing lane splitting in 100k, I did 100k on offramp coz road was clear)

He must have followed me sometime and waiting for me todo something stupid...

Argg $550 fines total! $400 for breaching L condition and $150 for not indicating properly....

[Ixion]

Only one bikie cop I know of reactionary enough to still be riding the old ST1100. Did he have a beard?

[BANZAI]

Only one bikie cop I know of reactionary enough to still be riding the old ST1100. Did he have a beard?

Hmm maybe? I can't really remember coz I was panicked at that time lol

He was old kiwi guy with glasses I think. He didnt have any accent so he must be kiwi(I mean I don't know wat kiwi accent suppose tobe, but he didnt sounds like British or American or Australian, so...) but probly he had beard...

[NOMIS]

So the Burgman (?) that sometimes runs down the right hand side of the northern (right next to the cheesecutter) and lurches along unsteadily causing the cars in the right lane to jump sharply in front of me while I'm cautiously splitting to their left (phew, bit of a mouthful) is actually not breaking the law, but I am?

What makes riding to the right of the rh lane legal? Isn't it an emergency stopping zone or somesuch?

Are u talking about that bright yellow prick??

[caseye]

The way Aucklanders drive is atrocious, our So Called Motorways might as well be car parks morning and night.To get to where one is going on a bike, requires na demands a certain skill in lane splitting.
The individual Police person will decide on the day whether or not they are going to stop you and write you up. Course if they didnt see your plate and were two hundred cars back who's going to stop?

[McJim]

Amazing, I did 26 km Southern Motorway to work every day and 26km back for more than a year. always splitting, never got stopped.

Always endeavoured to be between the line and the car on my left while indicating right (to signify that I was overtaking the car on my left not the car on my right).

Once had a big green Falcon try to block me from the right on the Newmarket section - I wasn't even in his lane but he swept across to close me down. I pulled back a bit, he eased off back to the middle of his lane, I went to go down his left, he veered to his left while I quickly gunned it and flicked down his right hand side. The car in front of him saew the whole thing and moved out of the way to give me a clear run away from the danger.
Not all cagers are pricks eh? Meanwhile the Green Falcon (guy had a neck brace on too - must have been a real fuckwit driver) swerved to try and knock me off the fooking bridge. Maniac.

[boomer]

I was taking it really easy, what with the rain and all, i think he was going to let me off, but spotted my radar .. LOL ... he wrote radar down next to my name in his note book ... HA HA.

you should have pulled your black book out, wrote the time, place and his number and next to it.. "WANKER'

[boomer]

Once had a big green Falcon try to block me from the right on the Newmarket section - I wasn't even in his lane but he swept across to close me down. I pulled back a bit, he eased off back to the middle of his lane, I went to go down his left, he veered to his left while I quickly gunned it and flicked down his right hand side. The car in front of him saew the whole thing and moved out of the way to give me a clear run away from the danger.
Not all cagers are pricks eh? Meanwhile the Green Falcon (guy had a neck brace on too - must have been a real fuckwit driver) swerved to try and knock me off the fooking bridge. Maniac.

did you stop and stab him in the eye?

[Irontusk]

Even if you're lane splitting to the left of the white line, a cop can do you for careless use, just cause he feels like it, and this is what you'll get a ticket for if you explain where you were in which lane (if you've been pulled over for lane splitting, the cop is pretty much just after revenue, unless you're going way too fast)

I havn't had one good experience with a traffic cop, even when I've been stopped for nothing at all, even accused of torching a car.

[Clockwork]

Amazing, I did 26 km Southern Motorway to work every day and 26km back for more than a year. always splitting, never got stopped.

Always endeavoured to be between the line and the car on my left while indicating right (to signify that I was overtaking the car on my left not the car on my right).

Once had a big green Falcon try to block me from the right on the Newmarket section - I wasn't even in his lane but he swept across to close me down. I pulled back a bit, he eased off back to the middle of his lane, I went to go down his left, he veered to his left while I quickly gunned it and flicked down his right hand side. The car in front of him saew the whole thing and moved out of the way to give me a clear run away from the danger.
Not all cagers are pricks eh? Meanwhile the Green Falcon (guy had a neck brace on too - must have been a real fuckwit driver) swerved to try and knock me off the fooking bridge. Maniac.

Once had a guy in the right lane move left to block me from splitting. I moved into the left lane behind the car next to him and passed both cars down the shoulder before moving back into lane 1a in front of him. I was out of order I know but I wasn't going to give him the satisfaction of stopping me. The best part was, as he realised I'd Check-mated him... he tootled melodiously in frustration.

I would add that it was in heavy congestion and the traffic was moving very slowly.