Which would you buy - Garmin Zumo or the GPSMAP 60CSX?

[Zukin]

Thanks Scott

A had a hunt around on Google and came up with this:
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=282955

Supposedly they DO work offroad as long as you disable the streetmapping side of it. It has a SD slot and USB so as far as I can figure out you can download/purchase a togo card in which it will work.......

Yes you are right, but that is what I meant above by having to disable one set of maps to use the others
Something I don't have to worry about on the 60 series

In NZ alot of the gravel roads for auto routing on NZ Maps arent on there, so I have to change to Topomaps, this would e really frustrating having to stop and turn one of them off

[NighthawkNZ:Me]

i have a zumo 550 cost me just under $2000 when i bought it and it"s the one made for bikes if you want i can bring my one round for you to have a play with for a while.

I use the Garmin Quest (its water proof, mapping, and what they class as a semi for bikes) I got mine for about $200 @ DSE

But if you are want the full functions I would go for the ZUMO

[Qkchk:Me]

Yes you are right, but that is what I meant above by having to disable one set of maps to use the others
Something I don't have to worry about on the 60 series

In NZ alot of the gravel roads for auto routing on NZ Maps arent on there, so I have to change to Topomaps, this would e really frustrating having to stop and turn one of them off

Fair enough call. Because of the riding we do (both dedicated road riding and soon to commence adventure riding) that wouldn't be a big price to pay for us. I would suspect you'd be using your unit just for adventure riding?

[Zukin]

Yeah pretty much
But I also use it in the car when I go to Auckland and Wellington too

It does all the normal find like the Zumo, fuel etc etc

[cooneyr]

....I have both the Maptoaster topomaps and NZ open source maps on one SD card, they work together so no need to turn one set of maps off, unlike the Legend I have heard you have to turn off one set of maps to get the other one to work??.....

From what I have seen (of the legend HCx but suspect to be true of others as well) the biggest problem with having the autorouting maps and topomaps on at once is that the autorouting road centrelines don't always line up with the topomap centrelines hence the maps can look messy. The easiest way to deal with it is to turn of the topos till off road and then turn the topos on and the auto routing off.

This being the problem I dont see why the 60csx is any better than a zumo or the Legend HCx as it is not a hardware problem but rather the 3rd party software that you are putting on the units?

Not trying to antagonise you Zukin, I'm just curious what angle your coming from (to clarify for myself and others)?

Cheers R

[Transalper]

using the new etrex Legend HCx...
Thus far I just leave both auto routing and topo displaying at the same time and can navigate using both auto routing roads and tracks without turning anything off.

[Zukin]

using the new etrex Legend HCx...
Thus far I just leave both auto routing and topo displaying at the same time and can navigate using both auto routing roads and tracks without turning anything off.

Ok so when you have a route in place (using NZ Open Maps) and then you come to the end of the road so to speak, and then navigate using waypoints (because auto routing wont work cause there isnt a road), on mine (60) it switches over automatically and then you follow the route using waypoints, then when you get back on the road it reverts back to auto routing

When I had the Legend it couldn't do this, it keep trying to send me back around the road

Not a biggie but annoyed me

[NordieBoy]

Or if anyone knows - what about the New Navman S30 portable which is available in the new Flybuys catalogue for 2430 points (pity they didn't have a points plus cash deal as I'm about 600 points short at the moment!) - any good on a bike?

Waterproof?

[Transalper]

Ok so when you have a route in place (using NZ Open Maps) and then you come to the end of the road so to speak, and then navigate using waypoints (because auto routing wont work cause there isnt a road), on mine (60) it switches over automatically and then you follow the route using waypoints, then when you get back on the road it reverts back to auto routing

When I had the Legend it couldn't do this, it keep trying to send me back around the road

Not a biggie but annoyed me

Ahhh, not totally sure bout an all in one route, but I can choose whether to follow roads or not when starting to follow a route, I have left it setup to ask me.
Sometime I'm sure I will set up a route like you've described and try it.
Did you use a Ledgend HCx or an earlier model?
I guess it's possible I will have to tell it to start navigating off road, but no need to hide maps. It is only a couple of clicks to show/hide map sets etc anyway so will not be an issue for me.
Last time I combined the on/off road trip I had it guide me to the start of a track and then followed another hand drawn route off road so it wasn't an all in one route.
Surely if the waypoint isn't on a road then the auto routing can't send you to it any other way than directly.

[Zukin]

Ahhh, not totally sure bout an all in one route, but I can choose whether to follow roads or not when starting to follow a route, I have left it setup to ask me.
Sometime I'm sure I will set up a route like you've described and try it.
Did you use a Ledgend HCx or an earlier model?
I guess it's possible I will have to tell it to start navigating off road, but no need to hide maps. It is only a couple of clicks to show/hide map sets etc anyway so will not be an issue for me.
Last time I combined the on/off road trip I had it guide me to the start of a track and then followed another hand drawn route off road so it wasn't an all in one route.
Surely if the waypoint isn't on a road then the auto routing can't send you to it any other way than directly.

It was a HCx Legend
After the success of my old legend I was keen to get another one (they are bullet proof)

What mine does is when it gets to the end of the road, it looks to the next turn, when there isnt one it looks for the nearest waypoint and reverts to off road automatically

But then again I hardly use in in the car anyway, and I dont really care where I go on the bike as long as I am riding

The deciding factor for me was the handlebar cradle

Cheers

[Zukin]

P.S When can we see some footage from DB1K08

[Transalper]

P.S When can we see some footage from DB1K08

ahhhhhhhhhhh... next year... haven't got anywhere near enough free space on the hard drive to even thing about loading it up... still got some really cool reefton tour stuff to edit from November 2006 and that's just the tip of the iceburg so to speak.

Any one out there want to edit any adventure tapes?... turn 4 or 5 hours of tape each trip in to 30 or 40 minutes per trip?


back on the gps... a cradle sounds nice as a mount, haven't decided the best option for the legend yet, they have that handlebar clamp but it looks fairly fragile... when thinking about the crf handlebars that is. Just have a ductape mount on the DR handlebar pad so far, but surely that's only temporary.

[Fatjim]

I'd learn to read a fucking map, or if your a chick, get a bloke who doesn't get easily lost.

[Zukin]

I'd learn to read a fucking map, or if your a chick, get a bloke who doesn't get easily lost.

You need you!
If you only follow the road

The adventure starts for us when the road stops
We can ride for hours with no set path, but when we are hungry, we need to find the road

I really only started to carry mine when I came across a really bad accident in Rainbow Station a few years back, if it wasnt for the GPS and the exact coordinates, the young fella would not be here

[NordieBoy]

back on the gps... a cradle sounds nice as a mount, haven't decided the best option for the legend yet, they have that handlebar clamp but it looks fairly fragile... when thinking about the crf handlebars that is. Just have a ductape mount on the DR handlebar pad so far, but surely that's only temporary.

Never had a problem with the Legend (original) barmount and that includes racing MX and cross countries with it on the XR.