Has Motorcycling New Zealand lost all relevance?

[scracha]

Oh wait a minute..what am I saying. You wouldn't happen to fit Oyster's definition of an MNZ board member?

well meaning but thoroughly "well past used by date" medal wearing, self important tosser with affiliations to some obscure old boy networks"

Back in 19canteen I road a BSA blah blah and geoff duke squared off the corners on his dunlop squaremasters yadda yadda yadda..yoof of today..all bloody poofta's...rant rant rant...in my time it wasn't a proper meeting unless at least 2 riders died ...

[idleidolidyll]

Whatever mate. Start your own Formula series that allows basically anything and see how it goes.

that's pretty much what BEARs was and it was a roaring success; MNZ creates its own detractors with silly bullshit stuff like the handlebar rule

Like I said; MNZ just never learns and in that it dooms itself to the same arguments and attacks it has always suffered

[idleidolidyll]

Oh wait a minute..what am I saying. You wouldn't happen to fit Oyster's definition of an MNZ board member?

well meaning but thoroughly "well past used by date" medal wearing, self important tosser with affiliations to some obscure old boy networks"

Back in 19canteen I road a BSA blah blah and geoff duke squared off the corners on his dunlop squaremasters yadda yadda yadda..yoof of today..all bloody poofta's...rant rant rant...in my time it wasn't a proper meeting unless at least 2 riders died ...

the funniest thing in the world is watching pimply youths mouth off about their elders only to become them when they finally grow up

[HDTboy]

Why not get the rules changed to suit you then iii?
And I'd hardly call scracha a youth

[dangerous]

OI III edit ya 1st post and ADD a POLL, 4, options 1- all in 2- seperate classes for motards 3&4- same again but for those that CURRENTLY race.... lets just see what the people want.

if you dont ill start one that does

[idleidolidyll]

Why not get the rules changed to suit you then iii?
And I'd hardly call scracha a youth

the point is to leave the fukkin rules alone so that diversity is encouraged but now they're so fucked they have to go backwards to be relevant again

and if you've been awake you'd have noticed that i'd never fit in with MNZ as long as it acts as it has for the past few decades

just say duh!

[Goblin]

Oh wait a minute..what am I saying. You wouldn't happen to fit Oyster's definition of an MNZ board member?

well meaning but thoroughly "well past used by date" medal wearing, self important tosser with affiliations to some obscure old boy networks"

Ha! Sounds all too much like the current CEO.

[Kickaha]

OI III edit ya 1st post and ADD a POLL, 4, options 1- all in 2- seperate classes for motards 3&4- same again but for those that CURRENTLY race.... lets just see what the people want.

if you dont ill start one that does

Been done before
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...ghlight=motard

[idleidolidyll]

OI III edit ya 1st post and ADD a POLL, 4, options 1- all in 2- seperate classes for motards 3&4- same again but for those that CURRENTLY race.... lets just see what the people want.

if you dont ill start one that does

i don't want a poll, i don't give a shit if more than half the current racers in a particular class are fools or not

i started the thread to engender discussion and debate not mastubation and willy comparisons

[Kickaha]

i don't want a poll, i don't give a shit if more than half the current racers in a particular class are fools or not

By fools I take it you mean anyone who doesn't agree with you?

[dangerous]

Been done before
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...ghlight=motard

so it has... and the result is as expected... MNZ did right

i don't want a poll, i don't give a shit if more than half the current racers in a particular class are fools or not

i started the thread to engender discussion and debate not mastubation and willy comparisons

another words.. to shit stir... ok ya done good man, Im out a here

[HDTboy]

i started the thread to engender discussion and debate not mastubation and willy comparisons

That's a relief, cause I have the biggest willy on KB

[White trash]

who needs the dirt part?

I don't. In fact I don't give a damn about it and wouldn't enter a pukka motard race.

However, my old 640 KTM regularly left litre sport bikes sulking in its wake on the road and as a road race bike; it deserved the chance to strut it's stuff.

A whole bunch of motards winning and dominating a field is exactly NO DIFFERENT to seeing a bunch of Yamazookis always winning F1.

The real yawnfest is watching the same boring jappas over and over again.

Best sport of all is watching Stephen Briggs fuck them up for 2 or 3 laps on the Superduke, sliding and spinning a ROAD BIKE the way the best riders in the world can.

Is that the same Briggs who was a mobile chicane on the same Super Duke at recent street meetings?

Gimme a break mate, and if the Jappas are so yawny and boring but not the best bike on the track, ummmmmm, why isn't someone racing a Ducati or an Aprillia or a Super Duke (because you seem to think they're gods gift to motorcycling) in National Level Superbikes?

You're obssession with motards and Super Dukes is so laughable because you're now arguing exactly what you started off condeming with this thread, one sidedness in bike racing.

[idleidolidyll]

Been done before
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...ghlight=motard

from the first post on that referenced thread:

"As has been mentioned elsewhere, MNZ have apparently ruled that Motards are now excluded from F1, F2 and F3 racing. For those that don't know, Motards are dirt bikes which have been fitted with road tyres- usually they fit 17" spoked wheels to take advantage of the sticky tyres/ slicks available. Typically Motards riders go for European bikes... because then they get to race in BEARS as well"

What has actually happened is that NON MOTARDS have been dumped by stupid sub rules too: the handlebar bullshit.
A Yammy MT03 is NOT a motocrosser OR a motard, neither is a KTM Duke.

And at the end, the usual jealous whine that some peoiple get to race in more classes............boo hoo! they also pay for the privelage in entry fees!

[Robert Taylor]

Sorry Il but I also have an issue with motards in the formula classes.
The lines motards take are so radically different from road race lines it was literally an accident waiting to happen.
By radically I don't mean variations in individual style either.
The one clear exception was the guy out on a honda 650? single.
He took normal road race lines and other than the fact he had lean angles that had me totally stunned was a pleasure to ride against.
For the record the handlebar height rules DONT exclude nakeds.-most have sub 900mm bars.

Yes indeed Frosty. The reason these bikes take such different lines is that the rake and trail figures are set for dirt. Reset them to road race figures and they will take almost the same lines and circulate faster.