Busted? Help!

**FJRider** · 24th March 2008, 21:32

Originally Posted by swbarnett

You just don't get it and nothing that I say will change that.

You believe in absolute safety and I don't. This is a philosophical differences that no amount of debate will resolve. It's tantamount to a religious debate. The only problem is that your beliefs are reflected in law and mine are not. This is not what I call a free society.

Life without risk is meaningless. Just look at the rise of extreme sports in recent years.

I cannot ride a 1200cc motorcycle, and believe in absolute safety. The law only plays a small part in the safety factor. The variables that do play a part of "safety" are weather conditions, road conditions, and other road users. PLUS our OWN ability. Each of which has many factors which COULD change/influence any or all the others in small ways. (at the wrong time/place)
Motorcycles ARE dangerous.Thats why we ride them. I spent several years in the Army, I do know about risk. Thats why risk MANAGEMENT was concieved. (heard of that ???)
NO extreme sport participant would engage in their sport, if they were thinking it was not possible to survive, or were not aware of ALL the risks involved. NO extreme sport I know of, takes part on public roads, while OPEN to the public, and still remain sanctioned by ANY organisation.
It only takes ONE mistake, and your day turns DEADLY. Whether or not the mistake is made by you, or ANYBODY else, compounded by the factors mentioned (any or all),who's at fault matters little.
One statement is then made... IT WASN'T MY FAULT, (who can I blame ?)

YOU TAKE THE RISK ....and your FREE too. The freedom to do so does/can have its price. CAN YOU AFFORD IT ???

A three day hunt for a dam good feed (and I have done) is better than the freeby, cause there's fuck all left on the tree, with the present number of lazy cu#ts about.

Ride safe. if ya don't...ya can't say ya WEREN'T warned.

HAVE A NICE DAY !!!

**Brett** · 24th March 2008, 21:55

All I can say is that you need one mother bitch of a long straight to overtake a truck and trailer doing 100kph on a straight rd. We all know that they slow right down to pathetic speeds come corners and then roar off on the straights. Can't overtake on corners too safely (not that size anyway). But tell me how the hell you safely overtake at 110kph when the truck & trailer is doing 100kph??

Have to agree on the lifting the speed limit thing, 90% of drivers would need significant training to be able to deal with the potential mishaps that can occur, Ie oversteer, understeer, hard-very hard braking, high speed manouvering etc. I have had someone loose control in front of me in the oncoming lane and had to manouver around them and they came spinning around at me. Not fun. OK, well a little, but the outcome could hve been fatal to the driver, his wife and kids as well as myself and my wife.
My personal belief is that all new drivers should have to do a defensive driving course such as is offered by rally driving school as well as Holden and Ford.

**FJRider** · 24th March 2008, 22:06

Ahhhh, the joys of motor(cycling)ing. When you weigh 44 tonnes, with 600 or more horses...who gives a toss ???

**FJRider** · 24th March 2008, 22:16

Originally Posted by Brett

All I can say is that you need one mother bitch of a long straight to overtake a truck and trailer doing 100kph on a straight rd. We all know that they slow right down to pathetic speeds come corners and then roar off on the straights. Can't overtake on corners too safely (not that size anyway). But tell me how the hell you safely overtake at 110kph when the truck & trailer is doing 100kph??

Have to agree on the lifting the speed limit thing, 90% of drivers would need significant training to be able to deal with the potential mishaps that can occur, Ie oversteer, understeer, hard-very hard braking, high speed manouvering etc. I have had someone loose control in front of me in the oncoming lane and had to manouver around them and they came spinning around at me. Not fun. OK, well a little, but the outcome could hve been fatal to the driver, his wife and kids as well as myself and my wife.
My personal belief is that all new drivers should have to do a defensive driving course such as is offered by rally driving school as well as Holden and Ford.

And all that training goes out the window when the 3 rug rats (and a few spares) are strapped in the four wheel drive,and are off to see hubby/daddy for lunch.And she's texting him they're on their way, in lunch hour traffic on the motorway.
I actually AGREE with speed limits being raised in SOME areas.NOT in ALL areas for ALL vehicles. More passing areas need put in place FIRST.

**swbarnett** · 25th March 2008, 22:48