Quarter of Police unhappy in job

[Patrick]

Lets sit around and do nothing then and wait for it to become that bad huh??? The Helen Brigade is merely a wolf in sheep's clothing Patrick.

She won't be around..... don't ya think?

[Biggles08]

She won't be around..... don't ya think?

Well....no...all going to plan

[scumdog]

Why can't they stop while we're standing on the side of the road having a cigarette break to say hi and generally treat me like a human??? why? A police officer originally from Dublin did this once to my mates and me and fuck did it impress me...I bet he's gone now though as his attitude was wrong according to the quota system.

"I know you weren't riding dangerous but you were exceeding the set speed limit and unfortunately I have to give you a ticket" instead of the usual BS line "If you had seen what I've had to put up with in my job you would agree that speed does kill and you going 112kph is a danger to others on this road." BULLSHIT NAZI PROPAGANDA!!!

I DO stop and yarn to random bikers, go and fetch tyre-pandos/fuel etc for them and DO treat 'em like humans - so where's tha KB post on that??(p/t)

AND I do tell motorists to their face why they are getting the ticket (don't 'do' tickets for 112kph)

[jrandom]

I would like to like the NZ police and would like to hear just once the sound of honesty when I've been pulled over for speeding "I know you weren't riding dangerous but you were exceeding the set speed limit and unfortunately I have to give you a ticket" instead of the usual BS line "If you had seen what I've had to put up with in my job you would agree that speed does kill...

When I was handed my most recent ticket (110 in an 80 up Albany hill) the copper in question didn't really have either of those attitudes.

It seemed more as though there simply was no question of there being discretion in the matter; he pings someone doing 30 over, he issues a ticket, general politeness all round, no suggestion that anybody was being 'unsafe', no suggestion that it's actually his decision to issue the ticket, but no regret, either; just the cogs of the machine ticking over, doing his job as instructed.

It reeked to me of quiet bureaucracy and general boredom, to be perfectly honest.

And it led me to consider a point - the hyper-alert state we ride in, a lot of the time, is so far removed from the mental condition of the average car driver as to be almost inconceivable. The things we do on motorcycles happen in an entirely different world of danger and precision.

It's hardly surprising that we don't fit into the road rules. They're not written for us.

The very idea of a vehicle user on the road having to maintain the level of concentration required to ride a motorcycle quickly would give almost any Government bureaucrat a screaming conniption fit.

We don't fit into the machine, and when we clash with its cogs, things get messy.

That's really all there is to it. Nature of the beast. Just gotta try to stay clear of those cogs.

[FJRider]

What about this Bobby then...

A British police officer has been forced to resign for having sex with a prostitute at a building he had been sent to investigate to see if it was a brothel.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/4495338a4560.html

Obviously an in depth investigation, he should have been commended.

[kiwifruit]

And it led me to consider a point - the hyper-alert state we ride in, a lot of the time, is so far removed from the mental condition of the average car driver as to be almost inconceivable. The things we do on motorcycles happen in an entirely different world of danger and precision.

I'd like to think all "bikers" ride in a state of heightened awareness as you describe but in reality it would half of them at best

[Firefight]

Ps. other firefighters on here, sorry but I think it just needed to be said.

I have no problem with your post at all !, after 22 years in the job, I have had more than my share of working with NZ Police officers, I have nothing but respect for them, I can recall working with the Police DVI team a few years ago, I doubt many of the general public would be up to that task !

They have have my full support.


Firefight

[FJRider]

When I was handed my most recent ticket (110 in an 80 up Albany hill) the copper in question didn't really have either of those attitudes.

At 30 km's over the posted limit, I wonder why ??? Another 11km/hour and you would have been walking. How many demerit's was that ??? 75 ???

[scumdog]

At 30 km's over the posted limit, I wonder why ??? Another 11km/hour and you would have been walking. How many demerit's was that ??? 75 ???

Shuddup you fool, you're making sense and this IS KB after all!!!

[FJRider]

I'd like to think all "bikers" ride in a state of heightened awareness as you describe but in reality it would half of them at best

Or BEST half the time.

[jrandom]

At 30 km's over the posted limit, I wonder why ??? Another 11km/hour and you would have been walking. How many demerit's was that ??? 75 ???

Of course. I didn't say I had a problem with the ticket, myself; I was just commenting on the copper's attitude.

Bear in mind that this is one of those slightly odd state highway '80' zones that should really be a '100'.

Not that I'm making excuses. I was just off in la-la land, riding to the road and conditions rather than the signposted limit. I've done the crime; I'll do my time.

The ticket came with 35 demerit points.

[FJRider]

Of course. I didn't say I had a problem with the ticket, myself; I was just commenting on the copper's attitude.

Bear in mind that this is one of those slightly odd state highway '80' zones that should really be a '100'.

Not that I'm making excuses. I was just off in la-la land, riding to the road and conditions rather than the signposted limit. I've done the crime; I'll do my time.

The ticket came with 35 demerit points.

The demerit's hurt most.

[Biggles08]

I DO stop and yarn to random bikers, go and fetch tyre-pandos/fuel etc for them and DO treat 'em like humans - so where's tha KB post on that??(p/t)

AND I do tell motorists to their face why they are getting the ticket (don't 'do' tickets for 112kph)

Not a KB post but just for you Scumdog check out this
Credit where its due but it ain't due too often sorry to say.

[Biggles08]

At 30 km's over the posted limit, I wonder why ??? Another 11km/hour and you would have been walking. How many demerit's was that ??? 75 ???

I know the hill Jrandom is referring to FJrider and similar to Scumdogs opinion of KB posters, at BEST it should have only been 10kph over a 'real' speed limit that 'makes sense.' 80kph up there is ridiculous considering some other 100kph limited areas that are far more dangerous...but its logic we have all become accustomed to and therefor tolerate.

[FJRider]

Logic and law, often differ. such is life.