Quarter of Police unhappy in job

[007XX]

I would like to like the NZ police and would like to hear just once the sound of honesty when I've been pulled over for speeding "I know you weren't riding dangerous but you were exceeding the set speed limit and unfortunately I have to give you a ticket" instead of the usual BS line "If you had seen what I've had to put up with in my job you would agree that speed does kill and you going 112kph is a danger to others on this road." BULLSHIT NAZI PROPAGANDA!!!

Now...that's what I call honnest! And respect to you for all of it.

Interesting thing is: I agree with you on pretty much everything.

However, I have not as yet had a bad "traffic cop" experience. Only had a brush with the law twice and everytime, the cops have been curteous and have not treated us badly at all...fairly even. And before anyone reckons it is because I look the way I do , just let me quickly relate this little anecdote:

Picture this: It is 11pm on a cold September night, 007XY and I are riding down to the Cold Kiwi...I am pillion on the 955 Daytona, and I am nearly falling asleep on the back I am so cold...there is frost everywhere and hubby is trying to get me to a bonfire ASAP, so stretches the speedo to about 132kms an hour. Surely enough, on one of the straights before Ohakune, we see the blue and reds flashes...Hubby stops, speaks to lovely chap in the (heated) Commodore while I try to remain awake...Man in blue reduced the speed on the ticket to 119 kms and hour and bid us goodnight with a wish for us to have a safe trip to our destination.

He was polite and friendly, didn't make us feel like naughty kids and just did his job. He did not have to do what he did, and we respected him for it.

So I guess your point is perfectly justified, and so is mine...the only difference being our respective personal experiences.

Traffic cops are not the representation of the whole police corp...they are just the ones we get confronted with on a more regular basis. Should one of them ever treat me the way you descibed in your earlier post, then yes, I'd be angry and I would certainly have little respect for that person, but I would not just lump everyone in the same basket.


Isn't it a lot of what we bikers are often so very annoyed about: Being lumped in one big "you are all nasty people because you ride bikes"?

[Swoop]

Why don't we have a "Make a policeman happy" day?

Perhaps bake a cake and then track down a policeman on the side of the road, and present it to him/her.
Say "cheer up old chum, you could use a nice treat"!

Wouldn't that be nice?

[Ixion]

WHAT? Are you mad? And get arrested by the Food Police? Do you realise how unhealthy cake is ?

It's people like you with such socially irresponsible attiudes that cause the 100000 deaths per year due to obesity. And have made necessary the soon-to-be-implemented Daily Calorie Limits for all eaters. Yes, you WILL need a Government Certified Scale in your kitchen. And a licence to enter fast food establishments (mandatory disqualification for those who clock up too many Fat Demerits)

[FJRider]

Cake reacts with the doughnuts... badly

[peasea]

Personally I have a problem with how the 'speed kills' issue is handled...and that is merely because that issue relates directly to me...I like to ride quicker than the set speed limits in certain situations and can confirm that I'm 100% not prepared to kill because of it (as the LTNZ would want you to believe)- therefor I have a vested interest in this particular law. If I had kids and thought I had the right to smack my child while disciplining them I'm sure I would show/vent my frustration at that 'bad' law., but it doesn't affect me directly.

So...when it comes to why people dislike the police and their reasons for it, I'm sure you will find that it is due to the 'personal' experiences they have had surrounding their particular interest. The only time I have any contact with the law keepers in this country is when they stop me on the side of the road for allegedly committing an offense. Why can't they stop while we're standing on the side of the road having a cigarette break to say hi and generally treat me like a human??? why? A police officer originally from Dublin did this once to my mates and me and fuck did it impress me...I bet he's gone now though as his attitude was wrong according to the quota system.

Now let me make this very clear...I'M AWARE THE SET SPEED LIMIT IS 100KPH ON THE OPEN ROAD and if I choose to ignore this rule and I'm caught...so be it, give me the ticket, I'll be pissed off at what I perceive to be a bad law being enforced but will take it on the chin and carry on.....BUT....and its a big 'but,' don't give me a lecture telling me that I'm prepared to kill someone or that my riding is dangerous when clearly surrounding the circumstances in which I'm stopped its not. I know when I'm riding dangerous and I also know that it is getting less and less as I get older so a pimpled faced police officer telling me how I should be riding is where I will get angry.

The reason I think the police have a lot to answer to is based on personal experience alone - and this is fact...its not hearsay or any other 3rd party telling me how to think it is ONLY based on issues that I have been personally involved in. I know there are bad apples everywhere but why do I see so many in the (traffic) police force...I see them....its fact remember and I'm being 100% honest with you and myself.

I would like to like the NZ police and would like to hear just once the sound of honesty when I've been pulled over for speeding "I know you weren't riding dangerous but you were exceeding the set speed limit and unfortunately I have to give you a ticket" instead of the usual BS line "If you had seen what I've had to put up with in my job you would agree that speed does kill and you going 112kph is a danger to others on this road." BULLSHIT NAZI PROPAGANDA!!!

Have to agree, especially about the apples but I'd go one step further and call them fuckwits. I'm sick and tired of the b/s lectures at the roadside; you can't tell me 111kph is going to kill anything other than the odd possum on an open, straight road and in daylight even that's a rarity. 100kph is too slow in so many places but the problem is the average twat doesn't seem to be able to adjust their speed to the conditions. That's the key issue.

Also; you are a bigger man than me; I refuse to take a speeding ticket 'on the chin' when the transgression is minor, such as 111kph. Enforcing stupid laws deserves a lecture of my own and I'm not backward in coming forward to deliver it and I am far more likely to drop a bit of throttle (or tongue) off for a cop that passes the attitude test and gives me a warning rather than a ticket.

Fat chance of a warning in these revenue collecting days though. When was the last time anyone here had a warning?

[peasea]

Personally I have a problem with how the 'speed kills' issue is handled...

So...when it comes to why people dislike the police and their reasons for it, I'm sure you will find that it is due to the 'personal' experiences they have had surrounding their particular interest. The only time I have any contact with the law keepers in this country is when they stop me on the side of the road for allegedly committing an offense. Why can't they stop while we're standing on the side of the road having a cigarette break to say hi and generally treat me like a human??? why? A police officer originally from Dublin did this once to my mates and me and fuck did it impress me...I bet he's gone now though as his attitude was wrong according to the quota system.

Now let me make this very clear...I'M AWARE THE SET SPEED LIMIT IS 100KPH ON THE OPEN ROAD and if I choose to ignore this rule and I'm caught...so be it, give me the ticket, I'll be pissed off at what I perceive to be a bad law being enforced but will take it on the chin and carry on.....BUT....and its a big 'but,' don't give me a lecture telling me that I'm prepared to kill someone or that my riding is dangerous when clearly surrounding the circumstances in which I'm stopped its not. I know when I'm riding dangerous and I also know that it is getting less and less as I get older so a pimpled faced police officer telling me how I should be riding is where I will get angry.

I would like to like the NZ police and would like to hear just once the sound of honesty when I've been pulled over for speeding "I know you weren't riding dangerous but you were exceeding the set speed limit and unfortunately I have to give you a ticket" instead of the usual BS line "If you had seen what I've had to put up with in my job you would agree that speed does kill and you going 112kph is a danger to others on this road." BULLSHIT NAZI PROPAGANDA!!!

Have to agree. I'm sick and tired of the b/s lectures at the roadside; you can't tell me 111kph is going to kill anything other than the odd possum on an open, straight road and in daylight even that's a rarity. 100kph is too slow in so many places but the problem is the average twat doesn't seem to be able to adjust their speed to the conditions. That's the key issue.

Also; you are a bigger man than me; I refuse to take a speeding ticket 'on the chin' when the transgression is minor, such as 111kph. Enforcing stupid laws deserves a lecture of my own and I'm not backward in coming forward to deliver it and I am far more likely to drop a bit of throttle (or tongue) off for a cop that passes the attitude test and gives me a warning rather than a ticket.

Fat chance of a warning in these revenue collecting days though. When was the last time anyone here had a warning?

[Skyryder]

Also; you are a bigger man than me; I refuse to take a speeding ticket 'on the chin' when the transgression is minor, such as 111kph. Enforcing stupid laws deserves a lecture of my own and I'm not backward in coming forward to deliver it and I am far more likely to drop a bit of throttle (or tongue) off for a cop that passes the attitude test and gives me a warning rather than a ticket.

Fat chance of a warning in these revenue collecting days though. When was the last time anyone here had a warning?

Gota agree with you on this one. The ones with attitude are easy to spot. It's the ones that play games and lead you to believe that you are only going to get a warning then they book you. If in doubt the standard response to any question is............Do I have to answer that question officer?? Don't get smart with them just remember that the Police are obliged by law to inform you of your rights. The best bedtime reading I could suggest is a copy the the Land Transport Act.


Skyryder

[Mole_C]

I find it rather interesting how the majority of the comments here are in regards to traffic cops. Do you guys honestly think that all the cops do is sit around giving people tickets?

[scumdog]

Gota agree with you on this one. The ones with attitude are easy to spot. It's the ones that play games and lead you to believe that you are only going to get a warning then they book you. If in doubt the standard response to any question is............Do I have to answer that question officer?? Don't get smart with them just remember that the Police are obliged by law to inform you of your rights. The best bedtime reading I could suggest is a copy the the Land Transport Act.


Skyryder

Dunno how others operate but with me (when I get around to writing tickets):

Hi, the reason I stopped you is****, have you any explanation?
(Listens to story, turns on bullshit radar and decides if explanation reasonable)

THEN

OK, fair enough, don't be doing it again, consider yourself warned.

OR

You are going to be issued a traffic infringement notice for ***, please remain in your vehicle while I write it out.

The most uppity ones seem to be the wealthier ones in expensive vehicles who also seem to have the most pathetic excuses.
("I've just had the Monaro tuned and can't seem to keep it below 70kph, be reasonable man, I'm off to see my sick mother" )
Snatches ticket from me, revs motor, drops clutch and disappears in a scatter of grit, wow, that really impressed/intimidated me no end-pfft.!!

The average guy accepts they have erred and is polite and calm, hence he gets some slack cut if it's available.

Of course I'm some sort of wierdo that runs around stark-bollocky-nekkid so the above may not apply to others.

[peasea]

I find it rather interesting how the majority of the comments here are in regards to traffic cops. Do you guys honestly think that all the cops do is sit around giving people tickets?

........and eating donuts

[SixPackBack]

Dunno how others operate but with me (when I get around to writing tickets):

Hi, the reason I stopped you is****, have you any explanation?
(Listens to story, turns on bullshit radar and decides if explanation reasonable)

THEN

OK, fair enough, don't be doing it again, consider yourself warned.

OR

You are going to be issued a traffic infringement notice for ***, please remain in your vehicle while I write it out.

The most uppity ones seem to be the wealthier ones in expensive vehicles who also seem to have the most pathetic excuses.
("I've just had the Monaro tuned and can't seem to keep it below 70kph, be reasonable man, I'm off to see my sick mother" )
Snatches ticket from me, revs motor, drops clutch and disappears in a scatter of grit, wow, that really impressed/intimidated me no end-pfft.!!

The average guy accepts they have erred and is polite and calm, hence he gets some slack cut if it's available.

Of course I'm some sort of wierdo that runs around stark-bollocky-nekkid so the above may not apply to others.

Makes you more human scumdog

[peasea]

Gota agree with you on this one. The ones with attitude are easy to spot. It's the ones that play games and lead you to believe that you are only going to get a warning then they book you. If in doubt the standard response to any question is............Do I have to answer that question officer?? Don't get smart with them just remember that the Police are obliged by law to inform you of your rights. The best bedtime reading I could suggest is a copy the the Land Transport Act.


Skyryder

I would never get smart to a police officer, that's naughty.

[Skyryder]

Dunno how others operate but with me (when I get around to writing tickets):

Hi, the reason I stopped you is****, have you any explanation?
(Listens to story, turns on bullshit radar and decides if explanation reasonable)

THEN

OK, fair enough, don't be doing it again, consider yourself warned.

OR

You are going to be issued a traffic infringement notice for ***, please remain in your vehicle while I write it out.

The most uppity ones seem to be the wealthier ones in expensive vehicles who also seem to have the most pathetic excuses.
("I've just had the Monaro tuned and can't seem to keep it below 70kph, be reasonable man, I'm off to see my sick mother" )
Snatches ticket from me, revs motor, drops clutch and disappears in a scatter of grit, wow, that really impressed/intimidated me no end-pfft.!!

The average guy accepts they have erred and is polite and calm, hence he gets some slack cut if it's available.

Of course I'm some sort of wierdo that runs around stark-bollocky-nekkid so the above may not apply to others.

To be honest it could be the dumb fucker just up the road who has just got the ticket and as a result may drive a bit slow and save your life.

It's a 'two way' thing that some of us forget at times.



Skyryder

[jrandom]

When was the last time anyone here had a warning?

I take it as a warning every single time I have to do 100kph (or more) over the posted speed limit to get away from the flashing red and blue lights in my mirrors.

Let it never be said that I am a heedless individual.

[peasea]

I take it as a warning every single time I have to do 100kph (or more) over the posted speed limit to get away from the flashing red and blue lights in my mirrors.

Let it never be said that I am a heedless individual.

Keep up the good work.