No small torque.

[madandy]

Interesting. I'm wondering what the top speed of these cars are. How about the 100-180 km/h segment and such?

Most family cars, being designed with fuel efficiency as a prime concern, will have a gearing that favours cruising (i.e. too tall). As such the diesel would have an advantage as it, most likely, develops more torque earlier.



Aw mate, I feel so sorry for ya! Hopefully they've sorted out the suspension since the late 80s - otherwise you'll be stuck with something that goes around corners like an overladen shopping trolley

I reckon the GTi should be interesting enough - they have supposedly sorted it out and returned to some of the virtues they forgot about with the Mk3s. My main beef with VW is that I find them too expensive compared to what you get - I'd go BMW or Audi if I was thinking about buying a german car and couldn't afford a Porshe They are however german quality and are not likely to disappoint.

I don't think the back straight was long enough for those slugs to attain any higher top speed, from rest!
Had a BMW. NOt that well assembled TBO.
It's PORSCHE you phillistine! :P

[Big Dave]

Random - does this mean that you have both an R1 and a GSX1400 currently?

[Mikkel]

I don't think the back straight was long enough for those slugs to attain any higher top speed, from rest!

Which kinda brings us back to my first comment regarding golfs...

Had a BMW. NOt that well assembled TBO.

Which year?

It's PORSCHE you phillistine! :P

I actually thought it was Porsche , but yeah I missed the c

[jrandom]

Random - does this mean that you have both an R1 and a GSX1400 currently?

Nah, I just threw the GSX1400 down the road and cooked up some bullshit story about a diesel spill to cover for the fact that I can't ride, then bribed kiwifruit to lend me his Yamahahaha for a month or two while parts are sent by slow boat from Japan.

[Big Dave]

Nah, I just threw the GSX1400 down the road and cooked up some bullshit story about a diesel spill to cover for the fact that I can't ride, then bribed kiwifruit to lend me his Yamahahaha for a month or two while parts are sent by slow boat from Japan.

Compré - Good luck with the self control thing.

[jrandom]

self control

That's something that people without R1s have.

Right?



Edit: Actually, you might be surprised at how quickly Super Corsas in the rain teach one self-control.

Then again, you probably wouldn't be surprised.

I have a pair of Pilot Power 2CTs on order; they won't arrive soon enough.

[Forest]

Fastest bike over the eighth of a mile is the Rocket III. It has 40 less ponies than the Hyabusa.

Interesting. I would have thought the MT-01 would be a contender for that title.

[jrandom]

Interesting. I would have thought the MT-01 would be a contender for that title.

No way, man, that shit's all cruiser-engined and suchlike.

[avgas]

Not bullshit. I stated torque wins races. It does. Fact.

tell that to the RS125 Paeroa winner.
riders win races.
Bikes just make it easier.
Just like a good blender wont make me dinner.


Well reading this whole thread is a rather funny pissing match. I'd rather laugh a little and stay out of it. It all gets messed up for you students types when you change it all to Matrix form and try to put a controller on it.
Gets even worse when a PI+D doesn't exist in the real world. So for now believe that the power vs torque argument is valid, the world is round, electrons flow from positive to negative and Helen Clark is a women.

[imdying]

I know where bike B develops that power and at what speed and know I won't be using it long. It turns to a whole mess of red and blue.

Torque is much better.

I disagree. But not because you're wrong, it's your opinion after all, but because until I open the garage up and sniff the air, scratch my backside, whatever, I don't know which bike I'd rather be riding. Some (hung over) days I want the slugger, some (trippin on acid) days I want something more engaging

[Mikkel]

They say a picture speaks more than a thousand words.

So here are a couple of examples...

Torque: http://dontclickthis.whatingods.name/absurd-house.jpg

Power: http://dontclickthis.whatingods.name/a-bomb-large.jpg

[madandy]

Which kinda brings us back to my first comment regarding golfs...

A fine, in fact the quintessential 'Hot Hatch' in MkI & MkII guise. Boat like in MkIII drag and a grown up compact as MkIV & V versions. No race car but a fine blend, especially when you own a bike to get yer kicks

Which year?

1998 E36 328iM


I actually thought it was Porsche , but yeah I missed the c

That nuke pic is more like the Torquiest bike on earth, tuned up with fancy pants head(s) & a perfect bottom end to sustain crazy high rpm, running on NOS, Turbo, alcohol and more...It kills all within a several mile radius and the aftermath can last centuries.

[fridayflash]

Says the guy on a pea green Suzuki.

too right mr cohen,those new tourers are absolute beauty in motion!

[avgas]

Interesting. I'm wondering what the top speed of these cars are. How about the 100-180 km/h segment and such?

Audi A4 (tdi) does 230 fine on the autobahn according to my suppliers there.
Sisters TDI camry did 200kph and that car was like 20 years old.
The issue with Diesels is actually their core principal. No Spark.
Glow plugs do not like changes in revs. But i hear that alot of this has been solved now with 'developments in technology'.

[Forest]

No way, man, that shit's all cruiser-engined and suchlike.

Here's what I found on the web.

MT-01
dry weight = 243kg
max torque = 150.3Nm @ 3,750 rpm
max power = 66.3kW @ 4,750 rpm

Rocket III
dry weight = 302kg
max torque = 200Nm @ 2,500 rpm
max power = 100kW @ 6,000 rpm