Why the WRB campaign is going nowhere.

[MSTRS:Me]

And I haven't disputed that in the slightest.

I do however believe their efforts have been directed in the wrong direction.

One hand washes the other. If you truly want to see bikers 'clean up their image', then organise some public rallies etc to promote this. If you are solely interested in sitting at your keyboard slagging the efforts of others on their chosen platform, then you are not doing any favours for any 'biker issue'.
Stand up and be counted (in the only way that has a chance of working), or shut the fuck up.

[NordieBoy]

When you come off its what you hit Kills you most times not the fall and I shure as hell wouldn't want to get decapatated by those wire ropes.

The wires don't worry me much.
It's the posts that put the shits up me.

[The Lone Rider]

I haven't and don't plan on signing it.

Accidents happen, injuries don't need to. When I see majority of people with bikes not doing stupid things on their bikes, then I'd support it.

You can complain about metal nails spilt on the floor cutting into your feet at work, but if you refuse to wear the boots they tell you that you are suppose to wear you haven't much of a position to argue.

[skidMark]

I haven't and don't plan on signing it.

Accidents happen, injuries don't need to. When I see majority of people with bikes not doing stupid things on their bikes, then I'd support it.

You can complain about metal nails spilt on the floor cutting into your feet at work, but if you refuse to wear the boots they tell you that you are suppose to wear you haven't much of a position to argue.

Ahhh and what do we have to protect us like a boot to a nail when we are doing the legal speed limit or under it, and can still be killed if a car were to knock us off?

You find me the gear that will protect me against that, that of course i can still fully function to the task at hand with, as would a boot in a workplace with hazards like nails.

I really do not see your viewpoint.

[Katman]

Ahhh and what do we have to protect us like a boot to a nail when we are doing the legal speed limit or under it, and can still be killed if a car were to knock us off?

Our own common sense.

[dangerous]

I haven't and don't plan on signing it.

Accidents happen, injuries don't need to. When I see majority of people with bikes not doing stupid things on their bikes, then I'd support it.

You can complain about metal nails spilt on the floor cutting into your feet at work, but if you refuse to wear the boots they tell you that you are suppose to wear you haven't much of a position to argue.

What sort of fuking shit are you on now LLama... bloody hell at less than, shit Im not repeating my self read from the start of the thread.. if its still there.

[skidMark]

Our own common sense.

Ahhh but if a car hits us outta nowhere we are toast, ahh read my post again perhaps.

[Hitcher]

I've carved nearly 40 crap posts out of this thread to the Pointless Drivel thead in an attempt to keep this thread largely on song and relevant. If people persist in lame personal attacks and other schoolboy points-scoring, then this whole thread will be PDed. You have been warned.

[dangerous]

In the info we were given for the petition there is a picture of a car that has gone under the wire rope... the rope removed the roof of the car and Im betting the people inside it have no heads, its not just bikes that these WRB should be removed.

[Katman]

Ahhh but if a car hits us outta nowhere we are toast, ahh read my post again perhaps.

Believe me Mark, I read every post of yours these days very carefully.

I understand that WRBs aren't the best option but I am suggesting that we will not change the powers that be's minds until they see us as a more mature and responsible group of road users.

[The Lone Rider]

What sort of fuking shit are you on now LLama... bloody hell at less than, shit Im not repeating my self read from the start of the thread.. if its still there.

Can't fault you Darryl for your consistency in how you post, what you post about, and lack thereof taking it up in person

Another problem with the campaign: Some people seem to not understand a good deal don't agree it's worth taking up on - to busy with their campaign to listen. Some... the rest don't mind others having an opinion that differs.

[skidMark]

Believe me Mark, I read every post of yours these days very carefully.

I understand that WRBs aren't the best option but I am suggesting that we will not change the powers that be's minds until they see us as a more mature and responsible group of road users.

I see, and that i am in agreement of.

Asking alot in an arena in which we have given nothing.

[dangerous]

Another problem with the campaign: Some people seem to not understand a good deal don't agree it's worth taking up on - to busy with their campaign to listen. Some... the rest don't mind others having an opinion that differs.

Untill some one they know is mained or killed... to late then to do anything about it... look at that car i posted above, could a been you.

PS: you want in person, well next time you got it... the hellie rescue run was not the place.

[Luckylegs]

Until such time as motorcyclists as a whole accept that the greatest danger to our own safety comes, in fact, from our own attitudes and actions and not from cheesecutters, cagers or ginga coppers nothing is likely to change.

To fix a problem you must ultimately confront the base problem.

...I understand that WRBs aren't the best option but I am suggesting that we will not change the powers that be's minds until they see us as a more mature and responsible group of road users.

And therein lies the problem, those two statements aren't the same... The former seems to imply we need to change so we never hit the WRB's whereas the latter says that we will but that we cant expect anyone to care while they think we are an unlawful bunch of sinners......

I suspect many more people will support (understand) the latter

[The Lone Rider]

PS: you want in person, well next time you got it... the hellie rescue run was not the place.

Yes... I bet it wasn't.