Ducati NZ overpriced?

[Marknz]

Hmm.. Bikes in Oz cost pretty much the same as that back in NZ?

I've not compared them lately, but back then there was a good 4-5K difference even after allowing for the exchange rate.

[Little Miss Trouble]

I've not compared them lately, but back then there was a good 4-5K difference even after allowing for the exchange rate.

I've noticed this lately too. The list prices for the Yamaha FZ1 has a gap of nearly 6k... can't tell me we're that different to Aussie, even allowing for taxes etc thats a big gap to account for.

[cs363]

Interesting after a quick squiz on the WWW

1098 pricing

US $14995 = NZ$19850
UK GBP11500 = NZ$30000
AU $25995 = NZ$32960
NZ $32000

So pricing seems pretty standard throughout the world excluding the USA. However, the US prices unlike everywhere else do not include sales tax which varies from around 8% up to maybe double that. They also have other hidden costs like assembly charges, documentation fees etc.
Just from looking at some of the Ducati forums it appears the US price is subsidised at present due to the crap exchange rate with Euro which explains the bif difference.

[johan]

A Ducati 848 is about 14000 Euros in Germany
14 000 Euros = 29 069 New Zealand dollars

In Sweden, it's about 140.000 kronor, which is also about $30.000 NZD.

So it's all consistent, except for USA.

So it seems, Ducati chooses to lower the price on the American market, for whatever reason. I read on other forums, Americans were moaning about higher import prices for their toys now when then USD is low. They still get their Ducatis cheap.

[Coyote]

Yup....its called business...

I knew someone would take that comment literally rather than cynically

[DMNTD:Me]

DMNTD's pocket

I can 100% assure you that that is the truth!
How else do ya think I got mine?

Interesting after a quick squiz on the WWW

1098 pricing

US $14995 = NZ$19850
UK GBP11500 = NZ$30000
AU $25995 = NZ$32960
NZ $32000

God I love staff discounts!

[cs363]

I knew someone would take that comment literally rather than cynically

WHAT!? Are you suggesting I'm not cynical???!!

[Mr Merde]

Was just reading an article from a US Motorcycle magazine and they have the Ducati 848 listed at $12,995... now with the current exchanger rate that puts it at about $17,000 NZD.

The cheapest I can find in New Zealand is $26,000. Even with GST added on the US price only comes to $19,000. Where is the other $7k going?

When Triumph made their manufacturing comeback in the 90's and I was living in the UK I remember a similar complaint.

Triumphs were selling for something like 10,000 UKP's in the UK and people were screaming out about it as all true Brit riders wanted to ride British.

They were outraged that the same bike was being sold in the US for approx 7,000 UKP

Nothing came of the outrage.

The more things change the more they stay the same

[wharfy]

are latte's half price as well?

Dunno, but Starbuck's is shit at any price

[vifferman]

Plus I believe the Ducati's we get here are sourced from Australia now, so there are most likely additional costs involved in shipping them trans-Tasman.

One of which is transfer pricing - they have to add a bit on when shipping it through the country so they don't get hit with import duty or other taxes as it goes through.
Some companies (such as Canon NZ) can't import directly from the manufacturer (presumably because our market's too small), so have to go via Australia, who whack on their bit. That's why you can buy Canon stuff cheaper overseas than here.

Anyway, in Mrka bike dealers will often sell bikes at less than the RRP price, as the importers / head office pay them an agreed sum regardless. So if they have new old stock on hand, they can sell it at a discount and still make the same margin. Competition and marketing are such that the buyer has real bargaining power, unlike us.

[Coyote]

WHAT!? Are you suggesting I'm not cynical???!!

Sorry, didn't mean too. I'm not usually so cruel

[alanzs]

So it seems, Ducati chooses to lower the price on the American market, for whatever reason. I read on other forums, Americans were moaning about higher import prices for their toys now when then USD is low. They still get their Ducatis cheap.

As stated earlier, economies of scale are huge in the US. Ducati undoubtedly sell MANY, many more bikes there than here.
We live in a little slice of paradise, and for the, we get to pay more for high priced, Italian machines.

All that said though, you can definitely buy a bike for cheap in the US and ship it here, pay all the fee's etc., and still have a bargain.

Recently, a bike dealer here in Auckland told me they would give me about $200 less on a trade in for my Bandit than what I paid for it 9 years ago in the US. But, being as how I want/need to buy another bike, there really is no winning, unless I want to import another bike...

Off to LA in a few hours, will see what strikes my fancy....

[jrandom]

All that said though, you can definitely buy a bike for cheap in the US and ship it here, pay all the fee's etc., and still have a bargain.

Yup.

Finn just did that with his new Night Rod. Saved a fair bit over what AMPS would have charged him for one, I believe, not to mention getting hold of it several weeks quicker.

Of course, when you do that, you're giving up any expectation of getting any kind of warranty service. Still, even with that taken into account, you'll probably be quite a long way in the black.

Money talks, and if a local importer isn't adding sufficient value to a product in return for their margin, I see no reason to pay it.

[DMNTD:Me]

...Of course, when you do that, you're giving up any expectation of getting any kind of warranty service. Still, even with that taken into account, you'll probably be quite a long way in the black.

One can purchase a warranty very easily from several different companies.
Also bare in mind that the U.S market Duc's are slightly different but easy enough to sort that out with more money being thrown

[raftn]

As a point of interst, my mate has a 1098, he wanted to put some termis on it, THe dealer quoted him four thousand, he ended up importing some form usa for $1800, and the dealer was happy to put them for him at the first service with minimal charge. The dealers are dictated to by Australia and it even annoys them. The internet has made things cheaper fro us all, and with a little common knowledge and taking some time you can get some very good stuff for you bike etc, with out going through the dealers.