Accident cause - discussion

**Katman** · 31st August 2008, 17:24

Originally Posted by justsomeguy

Having ridden the Taka's I feel sorry for the poor fella, they are a lovely road, just soo dangerous with the wind and crap on the road.

It's got nothing to do with the wind and the crap on the road.

It's everything to do with the attitude people take their bikes to that road with.

**MSTRS:Me** · 31st August 2008, 17:25

Originally Posted by Katman

It's got nothing to do with the wind and the crap on the road.

It's everything to do with the attitude people take their bikes to that road with.

Ridden that road a LOT, have you?

**dipshit** · 31st August 2008, 17:27

Originally Posted by yungatart

No kidding!
And you think (like Katman) that most of us don't know that already...

Judging from the typical attitude in these forums - no.

Being the fastest, having the most tortured looking tyres, scraping away your hero blobs, getting your knee down, pulling the longest wheelie... etc will guarantee you to be a "hero" around here. And when it does go wrong - it was never their brilliant selves that caused the accident. Oh no... "It was a freak accident!"... "There was a shiny spot on the road!"... "It was the fucking cage's fault!"

Yet the guy that figures out that the road is not a race track and conditions and the road surface can change from one week to the next... and rides accordingly at 7/10's because his attitude towards his riding is that getting to their destination without binning has a higher priority over having fun, just won't have the same street cred it seems.

There is something fundamentally fucked up with the attitude in which many approach motorcycling.

**MSTRS:Me** · 31st August 2008, 17:32

Originally Posted by dipshit

Judging from the typical attitude in these forums - no.

Being the fastest, having the most tortured looking tyres, scraping away your hero blobs, getting your knee down, pulling the longest wheelie... etc will guarantee you to be a "hero" around here. And when it does go wrong - it was never their brilliant selves that caused the accident. Oh no... "It was a freak accident!"... "There was a shiny spot on the road!"... "It was the fucking cage's fault!"

Yet the guy that figures out that the road is not a race track and conditions and the road surface can change from one week to the next... and rides accordingly at 7/10's because his attitude towards his riding is that getting to their destination without binning has a higher priority over having fun just won't have the same street cred it seems.

There is something fundamentally fucked up with the attitude in which many approach motorcycling.

I'd agree with a lot of the above, esp. if 'many' read 'some'

**Katman** · 31st August 2008, 17:37

Originally Posted by MSTRS

Ridden that road a LOT, have you?

I've ridden in conditions that would have you hiding in your bed for the day.

**MSTRS:Me** · 31st August 2008, 17:42

Originally Posted by Katman

I've ridden in conditions that would have you hiding in your bed for the day.

R-i-ght...
You are wrong. Again.
O MasterOfTheSweepingStatement - I asked you a direct question, and in best Winnie fashion you have ducked for cover. I take it that you know of the 'Takas by reading on here - that's bound to mean you know everything there is to know about this stretch of road. Not.

**Mom** · 31st August 2008, 17:43

Originally Posted by dipshit

Well your attitude you take towards these variables and unknowns that could be just around the next corner does actually matter a lot.

No shit dipshit. You know me and the way I ride I take it. I obviously need to be reminded of these things for my own good. Thank you for pointing out the bleeding obvious. You and Katman annoy the crap out of me sometimes.

Originally Posted by Mom

Come on

you are missing the message here, weather conditions, particularly wind shear and road surface have nothing at all to do with coming off, it is all attitude

Gospel according to Katman.

Originally Posted by Katman

It's got nothing to do with the wind and the crap on the road.

It's everything to do with the attitude people take their bikes to that road with.

You did not need to say a thing mate, I already spouted your mantra in an earlier post, why dont you go and have a nice pre-dinner drink or 10.

**SixPackBack** · 31st August 2008, 17:51

Originally Posted by justsomeguy

Course you don't, you just like to increase your post count, type crap that doesn't say anything and be negative. Must be sad to be so miserable all the time.

Having ridden the Taka's I feel sorry for the poor fella, they are a lovely road, just soo dangerous with the wind and crap on the road.

Put him on ignore Ujwal, your viewing pleasure will improve measurably

**MSTRS:Me** · 31st August 2008, 17:55

Originally Posted by SixPackBack

Put him on ignore Ujwal, your viewing pleasure will improve measurably

Perhaps. I think the analogy of a boil on the bum is apt...even when you can't see it, you know it's there and it still irritates the fuck out of you.

**Katman** · 31st August 2008, 17:56

Originally Posted by Mom

No shit dipshit. You know me and the way I ride I take it. I obviously need to be reminded of these things for my own good. Thank you for pointing out the bleeding obvious. You and Katman annoy the crap out of me sometimes.

Fuck you make me laugh, the way you take everything so personally.

Here's an idea - if you're that confident that your attitude towards motorcycling is beyond reproach then there's a good chance that the comments that dipshit and I (and others) make on here are not actually directed at you.

**sinned** · 31st August 2008, 17:58

Nice to read the professional advice from those who spent a great day behind a keyboard instead of on a bike. I had a great ride today - and it was over the Takas

**dipshit** · 31st August 2008, 17:59

Originally Posted by Mom

No shit dipshit. You know me and the way I ride I take it. I obviously need to be reminded of these things for my own good. Thank you for pointing out the bleeding obvious. You and Katman annoy the crap out of me sometimes.

Don't flatter yourself. This discussion isn't just for your benefit.

**Ocean1** · 31st August 2008, 18:04

Originally Posted by dipshit

Yet the guy that figures out that the road is not a race track and conditions and the road surface can change from one week to the next... and rides accordingly at 7/10's ...

... might take a little longer to die.

Dude I know, (actually know), the details of only half a dozen non-minor incidences on that hill. I promise you that 5 of those were riding at well less than 70%.

That road, more than almost any other I know is quite capable of hurting you at fookin' near walking speed. Two of the above lost the front wheel while following a queue of cars, so hardly fast, one of them on a diesel patch and the other one on an oil spill.

Yes, a lot of people, (me included) are occasionally intemperate, even reckless up there. But that's in no way a required factor for losing it in that particular place.

Your safety theories are as flawed as your prose is obnoxious. Fuck off.

**Fatjim** · 31st August 2008, 18:06

Originally Posted by dipshit

Judging from the typical attitude in these forums - no.

Being the fastest, having the most tortured looking tyres, scraping away your hero blobs, getting your knee down, pulling the longest wheelie... etc will guarantee you to be a "hero" around here. And when it does go wrong - it was never their brilliant selves that caused the accident. Oh no... "It was a freak accident!"... "There was a shiny spot on the road!"... "It was the fucking cage's fault!"

Yet the guy that figures out that the road is not a race track and conditions and the road surface can change from one week to the next... and rides accordingly at 7/10's because his attitude towards his riding is that getting to their destination without binning has a higher priority over having fun, just won't have the same street cred it seems.

There is something fundamentally fucked up with the attitude in which many approach motorcycling.

fucking SV1000 rider. you guys wouldn't know what 7/10's is your so farking slow.