No ticket quota for police? Read this...

[Patrick]

... and the wankers that drive at first light with no lights, or just their parklights, on.

But then there will be a KB whinge fest about that occuring... Hard to see if they are playing with themselves or not because of the lack of lighting - Leave the wankers alone, I say....

I see a opening here... Have donuts in the bag and you have a chance of getting off that ticket.

Is that a bribe sir?

[Conquiztador]

Is that a bribe sir?

"Oh no!! I have just baked them and are taking them to my mums place. But there is heaps there, so if you would like some, please help your self... And I expect nothing apart for your opinion re my baking"

[mxracer_nz]

I can't quite see how anyone can have so much trouble understanding that quota = cops picking easy spots to give out lots of tickets.

The anti-speeding campaign ads show a car coming into a corner too hot and killing some kid's mom.

The reality on the roads is that there are 4 lane roads with a speed limit of 50 and a speed camera at the bottom of a hill giving out tickets to drivers who would feel comfortable on that bit of road driving at 80, but because the limit is 50 they split the difference and drive at 65. There are plenty of roads in NZ where most drivers feel safe and comfortable at 15 above the limit - the cops spend their time ticketing on these roads rather than the roads where most drive slower but the occasional idiot crashes when driving too fast.

Really the roads that are the safest to exceed the posted speed limit on are the ones that are most likely to allow a police officer the chance to meet his/her quota. Road safety is something for the advertising campaign, not for a police officer to worry about.

this is exactly the problem i see with the way they are doing things, i didnt realise that bombay straight which is probly 6kms long of the smoothest safest straightest road i can think of needs a speed camera and a cop going backwards and forwards on it, every time i drive along there i see 1 or the other or both.

[scumdog]

i didnt realise that bombay straight which is probly 6kms long of the smoothest safest straightest road i can think of needs a speed camera and a cop going backwards and forwards on it, every time i drive along there i see 1 or the other or both.

MAYBE because if everybody knew NO cops were ever there they would be flying along at 145kph?

I dunno.

[Patrick]

this is exactly the problem i see with the way they are doing things, i didnt realise that bombay straight which is probly 6kms long of the smoothest safest straightest road i can think of needs a speed camera and a cop going backwards and forwards on it, every time i drive along there i see 1 or the other or both.

You should see some of the speeds they do get them for on this piece of road, even though EVERYONE knows it is well Policed.... and I am not talking of 111 or so - BIG numbers....

[jafar]

You should see some of the speeds they do get them for on this piece of road, even though EVERYONE knows it is well Policed.... and I am not talking of 111 or so - BIG numbers....

True that, I had a POLICE car go past me on that stretch doing well over 200k and in the wet too. those SS commies can boogie

[mxracer_nz]

MAYBE because if everybody knew NO cops were ever there they would be flying along at 145kph?

I dunno.

and would there be a problem with that? if you were to crash along there speed would not be a factor, you`d have to do sumthing really dumb like fall asleep or be drunk, or get distracted cause your dog`s giving you a blowjob..not that you`d no anything about that?

[Conquiztador]

this is exactly the problem i see with the way they are doing things, i didnt realise that bombay straight which is probly 6kms long of the smoothest safest straightest road i can think of needs a speed camera and a cop going backwards and forwards on it, every time i drive along there i see 1 or the other or both.

Nooo!!! Seriously, that place is sooo fab to get profile photos! The best, like ever!!

[scumdog]

and would there be a problem with that? if you were to crash along there speed would not be a factor, you`d have to do sumthing really dumb like fall asleep or be drunk, or get distracted cause your dog`s giving you a blowjob..not that you`d no anything about that?

Stroll on if you think all the above shit does not happen - regardless of what speed they're doing..(I guess you would know about this 'dog giving you a blow-job' thing, - I've never heard of it).

Do you think that if a stretch of road had no speed limit that people would all of a sudden be alert/sober/focussed/cautious etc when they got on to it????

Or are you really intelligent and just trolling?

[MSTRS:Me]

Do you think that if a stretch of road had no speed limit that people would all of a sudden be alert/sober/focussed/cautious etc when they got on to it????

I would sincerely hope that a road with no speed limit would be 2 laned each way. That way all the dawdlers at 145kph could be ticketed if they didn't stay in the left/slow lane....

[Mr Merde]

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Is that a bribe sir?

If it is, I certainly hope that you declare it in your income tax returns.

[Irontusk]

If it is, I certainly hope that you declare it in your income tax returns.

Nah just "have your lawyer sort it", that way you can do the "can't lie about what you don't know" scheme, even though you obviously know about it (well, you know about it, or you are plain stupid and shouldn't be in charge of yourself let alone anyone else) but not on record.

[swbarnett]

Serious question:

in the absence of having some performance indicators/KPI/KDRs linked to infringement outputs, how would you suggest traffic police officers are appraised/monitored?

Would you evaluate a soldier based on the enemy body count or on whether the mission was accomplished?

[swbarnett]

Roads are designed in 'speed environments' most dairy flats and other areas where there aren't big restrictions on the layout of a road are of a speed environment of 110km/h, meaning that the geometry of the roads is designed so that anyone travelling at 110km/h can do so in complete mechanical safety (i.e the car isn't going to suddenly lose traction around a corner).

What vehicle is this "safe" speed based on - the late model recently serviced car with top end tyres etc, or the dunger that just barely passes a warrant?

[swbarnett]

Here's a question - if thee WAS a quota (not asying there is and not saying there isn't) why would everyone have a problem with that?

I have a problem with a quota (or whatever else they want to call it) because it in no way measures the effectiveness of the police in improving road safety.

As I said above, evaluate the mission, not the body count.