What's wrong with Hondas?

**Big Dave** · 17th September 2008, 19:46

Originally Posted by AllanB

And the SR lasted.................?

Far call. Died after a flogging from Byron Bay to Sydney. Melted the oil ring. Traded it on an XS1100 under a year.

**lostinflyz** · 17th September 2008, 19:53

Originally Posted by vifferman

While it's silly to say Hondas are gay, it could be fair to see that Hondas are perceived as bland. Compared to non-Japanese bikes, you could say they are lacking in character, generally because they are reliable, smooth, quiet, etc. Compared to other Japanese marques you could say they are bland, because they aren't usually as festooned with decals etc. as other bikes.

i think youll find that the hooligan honda owners manage to make there bikes the most unreliable, difficult and noisy bikes possible. and therefore they are made cool, by being shittier than originally made.

but in reality people bag honda's cause they is jealous. While the honda may be bland, it works and well. Which is more than can be said of most bikes.

honda arent allowed to make pretty bikes however, as this would give them a monopoly,which is obviously against most national competition regulations

**Jerry74** · 17th September 2008, 20:00

Generally they are not too bad sort of like a Volvo... goes but not worth owning.
Have owned a couple of Hondas but never again.

Mind you I am biased and only like Kawasaki and Ducatis

**ceebie13** · 17th September 2008, 20:11

Maybe to some people Hondas are perceived as boringly bland, but that didn't stop me buying one. Your bike is what you make it, not what others think of it.
I chose to bling mine with aftermarket goodies to put my own stamp on it - just like riders of other brands do. I saw a blank canvas that is my CB1300 and chose to make it original.

It gets more than a cursory glance in the street which makes me smile as I sit sipping coffee and watch enthusiasts take more than a little time to take it in.
Oh, don't get me wrong, my bling is nothing more than cosmetic, but the Honda badge on the tank is still there. The stock engine is bulletproof and is more than enough to get me and the Mrs around in comfort and reliable safety.

So do I care that Hondas are bland? Is the Pope a jew?

**fatzx10r** · 18th September 2008, 07:45

Originally Posted by chrisso

Hondas are GAY

hondas are'nt gay, the owner's are

kidding

**madbikeboy** · 18th September 2008, 08:06

okay, I'm about to add some reason to this argument...

Tui, are you kidding, reason in a debate on why Honda's are ghey???

I ride a GSXR1000, the other litre bikes are either Kamakaze material (ZX10R), bland (CBR1000), or owned by people wearing "bling" (R1).

I also own a CBX1000 - and it's an interesting bike. Honda tend to do some pretty neat stuff from an engineering perspective - but they lack the charisma of other brands.

I'm also ruling out owning a Ducati ("does my cock look bigger now that I've spent $40 gajillion dollars), and Aprilia (parts supply, the only woe), and I'm definitely ruling out anything made in the UK or the US (I like a clean garage floor - think about it...).

But, I reckon the ultimate bike of all time just has to the Bergman scooter. I got told by a car salesman once that it could outdrag ANYTHING on the road, and that with a car tire installed on the back wheel, he could get 30,000 k's.

Anyone wanna swap my worked GSXR for a Bergman?? I mean, who wouldn't believe a car salesman (sorry Frosty, you're the exception)

**Swoop** · 18th September 2008, 08:11

Originally Posted by kiwi cowboy

well i have a onda and a suki does this mean i have a life or not

Bisexual???

**MarkH** · 18th September 2008, 09:36

Originally Posted by madbikeboy

But, I reckon the ultimate bike of all time just has to the Bergman scooter. I got told by a car salesman once that it could outdrag ANYTHING on the road, and that with a car tire installed on the back wheel, he could get 30,000 k's.

From what I've read the Burgman 650 in power mode can drag just about anything on 4 wheels and a hell of a lot of what's on 2 wheels too. The computer controlled CVT is simply a better transmission and the 650 twin produces good power. I would put money on a B650 vs many cruisers and tourers for take off from the lights. But against a sports bike I'd prefer to put my money on the sports bike.

Maybe the car salesman has never actually tested the Burgman against a sports bike? Ain't no way a Burgy is gonna beat any decent sports bike from the lights (for that matter neither is a Porsche or Ferrari).

**madbikeboy** · 18th September 2008, 09:46

Originally Posted by MarkH

From what I've read the Burgman 650 in power mode can drag just about anything on 4 wheels and a hell of a lot of what's on 2 wheels too. The computer controlled CVT is simply a better transmission and the 650 twin produces good power. I would put money on a B650 vs many cruisers and tourers for take off from the lights. But against a sports bike I'd prefer to put my money on the sports bike.

Maybe the car salesman has never actually tested the Burgman against a sports bike? Ain't no way a Burgy is gonna beat any decent sports bike from the lights (for that matter neither is a Porsche or Ferrari).

I offered him a little wager, but alas, by the time I went back with my humble scoot, he'd been "let go"...

I would imagine that a burgman would launch really well, and be ahead for at least the first 20 feet. And then the GSXR would go past, front wheel about a foot in the air, with the wave of power starting to happen as it got on cam and all the neat induction trickery started to happen...

As for dragging cruisers or tourers? Would the owners need to put down their knitting for the race, and would the bike go faster if they turn their dinky handwarmers off?

Oh, for the record, not that I've ever done it because street racing is bad - but a GSXR1000 is definitely faster than Porsche GT3's, Ferrari 360's, Ferrari 456's, and Skyline GTR (not sure about the latest one though). It's also way faster that WRX's, Evo's, and the little punk in a Starlet that tried in on on quay street last night.

**MarkH** · 18th September 2008, 10:06

Originally Posted by madbikeboy

but a GSXR1000 is definitely faster than Porsche GT3's, Ferrari 360's, Ferrari 456's, and Skyline GTR (not sure about the latest one though).

I'd happily race any of those cars with my 400cc scooter*.

* Conditions:
Race to be across Auckland during peak traffic times.

**vifferman** · 18th September 2008, 10:43

Originally Posted by MarkH

From what I've read the Burgman 650 in power mode can drag just about anything on 4 wheels and a hell of a lot of what's on 2 wheels too.

Personally, I don't care if a Burgman was the fastest, best handling, most fuel efficient and most popular two-wheeler in the universe. I wouldn't buy one or even test-ride one. Hondas may be gay, but Burgmans (Burgmen?) are just worngA. Sort of transvestite, or transsexual, or summat.
"Super scooters" seem to rule the universe in Yurp, Hong Kong, and elsewhere overseas (apart from places where style and self respect are important).

**Big Dave** · 18th September 2008, 12:08

>> I would put money on a B650 vs many cruisers and tourers for take off from the lights.<<

I wouldn't.

**Swoop** · 18th September 2008, 12:16

Originally Posted by madbikeboy

..and the little punk in a Starlet that tried in on on quay street last night.

Serious question. WHY do they even try, ffs!?

They are still driving a 1200cc p.o.s. even IF they have blinged it up (blunged??) with some blue lights and a baked-bean-can welded onto the end of the exhaust.

Why?

**Big Dave** · 18th September 2008, 12:19

Originally Posted by Swoop

Serious question. WHY do they even try, ffs!?

They are still driving a 1200cc p.o.s. even IF they have blinged it up (blunged??) with some blue lights and a baked-bean-can welded onto the end of the exhaust.

Why?

Kiwis love baked beans.

>Insert mother goose clip here.<