Sprot Bike v Motard

[The Stranger:Me]

Lets just take a random motard and a random sprot bike.
Say 100 hp difference between the 2.

Hypothetical ride up north of Auckland then along Paparoa rd.
For those that don't know Paparoa rd it's a sealed twisty goat track.

Forgetting for the moment about tickets, on the way up there the Motard is going to get slaughtered, hell it probably tops out at 180kph. Get to Paparoa rd though and things change, the sprot bike now has a fight on it's hands.

Why is it that the motard gains such a huge advantage from the twisties?

[limbimtimwim]

Why is it that the motard gains such a huge advantage from the twisties?

Because the person on the sports bike didn't harden the fuck up and just ride through it.

[Ocean1]

Weight.

If you're going to be chucking it around on questionable surfaces it really really matters.

[Mental Trousers]

Weight, geometry, riding poition and suspension.

Dirt bike derived geometry, riding position and suspension works better in tight stuff, especially if it's rough. Sprots boiks are designed and setup for faster, smoother roads so the geometry, riding position, suspension and weight distribution is different.

[kevfromcoro]

Glad you bought this up.......just watched a video where a 660 yam... beat an R1......was twisty though......
well i thought the the R1 would of creamed him....but he didnt....
thoughts????????

[The Stranger:Me]

Glad you bought this up.......just watched a video where a 660 yam... beat an R1......was twisty though......
well i thought the the R1 would of creamed him....but he didnt....
thoughts????????

My thoughts.

Weight doesn't matter.
The 660 is 170kg dry, what is an R1? I am guessing not too far off that.


The 660 is 41hp at the rear wheel std, best I have heard of is 56 from a highly modded one, so we are going to be close to my 100hp difference - give or take.

[BarBender]

Leverage from the handlebars and riding position
Vision from the upright riding position
Useable power for the road

[Big Dave]

Doesn't matter - it's only Random.

[carver]

the more determined rider always wins

[98tls]

the more determined rider always wins

Nope the better rider wins,within reason what is being ridden is irrelevant.On a good bit of road anyway.

[kevfromcoro]

the more determined rider always wins

true........ compition futhers the breed.......
but i cant beleive a motard would beat a sprotbike.....

[R6_kid:Me]

I think it's because the motard rider was starting to feel old and decided he had something to prove, whereas the younger sportsbike rider knew he would be getting laid when he got back to Auckland and decided to take it easy and save his energy for other activities.

[carver]

Nope the better rider wins,within reason what is being ridden is irrelevant.On a good bit of road anyway.

true.....very true

true........ compition futhers the breed.......
but i cant beleive a motard would beat a sprotbike.....

i can and have done so

[98tls]

Though not a Motard you only have to look at events like the Wanganui St races to see size is irrelevant,on a real road in the real world things are evened up more methinks.Look at a Busa,any clown can do warp speed down some endless straight but come a decent bit of road a motard or 600/750 sport bike would be my pick anyday.

[The Stranger:Me]

I think it's because the motard rider was starting to feel old and decided he had something to prove, whereas the younger sportsbike rider knew he would be getting laid when he got back to Auckland and decided to take it easy and save his energy for other activities.

With all the energy you were saving I bet she had the best 60 seconds of her life that day.

Mind you, the motard rider did feel fucken old today - beer, bourbon, champagne and 3 bottles of port can do that to you though.

Oh and yours it the longest Gareth - burn out that is, but the Busa had the highest carbon foot print.