Cunt Key

[Skyryder]

Christ, you didn't swallow that leftist bullshit did you? It really makes me despair that people can't see through this Liarbour misinformation.

Key talks about his credibility and running a clean election. He was up to his neck in the Brethren scam. That is not misinformation but fact along with the lies that he supported when the the Nats denied their links to this Church. He has not changed his spots one iota as my first post shows.


Skyryder

[MisterD]

Key talks about his credibility and running a clean election. He was up to his neck in the Brethren scam. That is not misinformation but fact along with the lies that he supported when the the Nats denied their links to this Church. He has not changed his spots one iota as my first post shows.

"The Brethren scam" - a bunch of blokes, who know each other because they go to the same church, decide to use their own money to circulate anti-Green Party information (notice please that nobody has actually claimed any of the content of the leaflet is not true).

I still don't actually see what the problem is here.

[Hitcher]

I still don't actually see what the problem is here.

But it scared sufficient shit out of the Rt Hon The Prime Minister for her to action the bizzare Electoral Finance Act.

At least she hesitated from providing taxpayer money to fund political parties' campaigns. If her lot get back, expect this with some urgency.

[Skyryder]

"The Brethren scam" - a bunch of blokes, who know each other because they go to the same church, decide to use their own money to circulate anti-Green Party information (notice please that nobody has actually claimed any of the content of the leaflet is not true).

I still don't actually see what the problem is here.

Key lies. Not a problem…………………….??



Skyryder

[Cajun]

Key lies. Not a problem…………………….??



Skyryder

they in politics they ALL lie

[MisterD]

But it scared sufficient shit out of the Rt Hon The Prime Minister for her to action the bizzare Electoral Finance Act.

What a fantastic shot to the pedal extremity that was too - the left are flat broke because the only reason for people with dosh to donate to them was in return for favours, and nobody wants that exposed to the light (eh Owen?) That of course leads through to the second part of your post...

At least she hesitated from providing taxpayer money to fund political parties' campaigns. If her lot get back, expect this with some urgency.

...tax payer funding will always be a step too far for the NZ voter, but that won't stop a Liarbour/Green/Winston 1st coallition ramming it through. Secret agenda anyone?

If you want to know what Clark is doing behind closed doors - look at what she's accusing National of.

[Skyryder]

But it scared sufficient shit out of the Rt Hon The Prime Minister for her to action the bizzare Electoral Finance Act.

At least she hesitated from providing taxpayer money to fund political parties' campaigns. If her lot get back, expect this with some urgency.

Yes I agree. After this shit from Peters and the SFO investigations whatever they lead too I have no doubt that this will be on Labours priority list. I have long held the belief that to reduce 'outside' influence with NZ politics and our parties NZ elections should be taxpayer funded. I have deep misgivings about overseas interests and contributing to parties operating in our elections.

Whenever this has been mooted their have been howls from the far right. I wonder why.

Skyryder

[MisterD]

I have long held the belief that to reduce 'outside' influence with NZ politics and our parties NZ elections should be taxpayer funded.

Whenever this has been mooted their have been howls from the far right. I wonder why.

That'll be "far right" defined as "anyone who's a net taxpayer with a brain" th
en?

It's simple - if you can't craft policy that attracts people to support you, don't expect support, and don't expect my tax $$.

[idleidolidyll]

I didn't really expect it to happen but congrats to the US Congress for at least having the balls to say 'fuck you' to the capitalists.

Why should taxpayers bail out those who've fleeced others for millions or even billions? Why allow them to continue doing so?

Capitalism is in another of its death throes; yes, another. The crash of 29 and all the other crashes are much the same; proof that allowing sheer greed to dictate the economy is foolish and bound to end in tears.

Wake up; the same capitalists were beating their chests not long ago saying that free markets were self regulating and would mean financial gain for all (trickle down bullshit).

On the contrary, free markets merely allow abusers and white collar crooks to get away with crimes that would see ordinary citizens locked up for years.

The real question is how many more crashes will have to happen before the ignorant masses wake up and realise that free markets are only a free ride for those prepared to abuse the good will of the people? The ordinary citizen will lose in the long run and the free market philosophy merely speeds the transfer of wealth from poor to rich.

Amerikan capitalism has failed again and it's taking the world with it. Why the fuck would you vote for a party that wants to impose the same policies on NZ?

You have a big choice this election:

you can vote on personality or you can vote with common sense and information about the kinds of policies that will end in failure.

The US destroyed most of its Roosevelt social welfare system long ago and made it virtually impossible to reinstate it. Costs skyrocketed after a brief hiatus and the rich got very much richer at the expense of all others.

National tried to do the same last time and will try again this time. It will fail but not before more wealth has moved to the wealthy and the less wealthy are left with crumbs and modern wage slavery.

Remember the past: National tried to get rid of ACC; that was a disaster and it will be again.
National introduced the Employment Contracts Act and that drove wages down so that Kiwis still leave for Aussie because of the disparity.

Vote with your brains not your emotions; vote left, vote for society not for greedy individuals.

[The Pastor]

I didn't really expect it to happen but congrats to the US Congress for at least having the balls to say 'fuck you' to the capitalists.

Why should taxpayers bail out those who've fleeced others for millions or even billions? Why allow them to continue doing so?

Capitalism is in another of its death throes; yes, another. The crash of 29 and all the other crashes are much the same; proof that allowing sheer greed to dictate the economy is foolish and bound to end in tears.

Wake up; the same capitalists were beating their chests not long ago saying that free markets were self regulating and would mean financial gain for all (trickle down bullshit).

On the contrary, free markets merely allow abusers and white collar crooks to get away with crimes that would see ordinary citizens locked up for years.

The real question is how many more crashes will have to happen before the ignorant masses wake up and realise that free markets are only a free ride for those prepared to abuse the good will of the people? The ordinary citizen will lose in the long run and the free market philosophy merely speeds the transfer of wealth from poor to rich.

Amerikan capitalism has failed again and it's taking the world with it. Why the fuck would you vote for a party that wants to impose the same policies on NZ?

You have a big choice this election:

you can vote on personality or you can vote with common sense and information about the kinds of policies that will end in failure.

The US destroyed most of its Roosevelt social welfare system long ago and made it virtually impossible to reinstate it. Costs skyrocketed after a brief hiatus and the rich got very much richer at the expense of all others.

National tried to do the same last time and will try again this time. It will fail but not before more wealth has moved to the wealthy and the less wealthy are left with crumbs and modern wage slavery.

Remember the past: National tried to get rid of ACC; that was a disaster and it will be again.
National introduced the Employment Contracts Act and that drove wages down so that Kiwis still leave for Aussie because of the disparity.

Vote with your brains not your emotions; vote left, vote for society not for greedy individuals.

get rid of acc yay, cheaper regos

[idleidolidyll]

That'll be "far right" defined as "anyone who's a net taxpayer with a brain" th
en?

It's simple - if you can't craft policy that attracts people to support you, don't expect support, and don't expect my tax $$.

rubbish!

funding by wealthy individuals and companies always means that your sovereignty is sold out to foreign interests and that policies will be made with regard to the rich and disregard for the poor.

National is terrified of state funding because it will take away that major advantage National gets from wealthy foreigners or greedy capitalists after personal gain.

[MisterD]

I didn't really expect it to happen but congrats to the US Congress for at least having the balls to say 'fuck you' to the capitalists.

I suggest you read this link that I posted in the Economic Depression thread. It very nicely puts the lie to your socialist spin...

[devnull]

rubbish!

funding by wealthy individuals and companies always means that your sovereignty is sold out to foreign interests and that policies will be made with regard to the rich and disregard for the poor.

National is terrified of state funding because it will take away that major advantage National gets from wealthy foreigners or greedy capitalists after personal gain.

Owen Glenn




What's the going rate for a consul's job these days?


http://briefingroom.typepad.com/the_...lenns-sha.html

[Hitcher]

I didn't really expect it to happen but congrats to the US Congress for at least having the balls to say 'fuck you' to the capitalists.

Au contraire. They said "fuck you" to the communists.

[MisterD]

rubbish!

funding by wealthy individuals and companies always means that your sovereignty is sold out to foreign interests and that policies will be made with regard to the rich and disregard for the poor.

National is terrified of state funding because it will take away that major advantage National gets from wealthy foreigners or greedy capitalists after personal gain.

Don't be soft. That's just a standard lefty straw-man argument, people with money = bad.