Psycho commute riders

[Kiwi Graham:Me]

Which reminds me... With the weather getting better, we will soon see the seasonal riders emerging and holding up the professional filterer's...

There out and about already!!!

[Guided_monkey]

Ok so after filtering to the front of the queue I should pull to one side for other bikers. So that puts you in the pedestrian pathway..... an offence. And now we piss off the pedestrians.

If there's a slower bike in front show some patience..... I commute every day. Not just fine days and I've been stuck behind everything from scooters to Harleys. Some people will be overly cautious... new to biking or just unused to the filtering game.

Recently, I've seen enough 'new' to biking, temporary NZ'ers. They act as if they're in there SUV, split at high speed with no thought to what their actions are doing to other users..... cagers and bikers.

Rant over

[Whynot]

I like to think of myself as the zen master of splitting. I worked as a bicycle and motorbike courier for two years. I've raced for a couple of years, and commuted 20k's each way on Auckland motorway network for years... at pace.
..... etc

Good post.

I spent the best part of last year commuting in London, watching the couriers there teaches you a whole new meaning of the word splitting ....
I tried to keep up with them a few times ... didn't suceed, but learnt a fair bit about what to do and where you can go even in very heavy traffic and narrow streets.

[old git]

If you had bothered to look in the MIRRORS you would have seen him "on a quick lap" and left him or her room to blat past.........death pilot like their fun...after all they are only temporary citizens!!!!

[Squiggles]

While splitting in Auckland traffic i'd be alot more interested in whats infront of me and what all the crazy coonts are doing on my sides, whats behind me is the least of my worries, so ill ride my own ride. Only reason you should get stuck between two cars at the lights is if you choose to.

[Kendog]

When I split to the front at lights I am not pulling over in front of a car so other bikes can come up, that puts me in danger if they get pissed off and jump forward just as the green is about to show.

Just like all passing moves, it is the responsibility of the passer to pass where it is safe. If they can't split to the front because there are bikes there and they don't think it's safe, then don't split to the front.

[dipshit]

Just like all passing moves, it is the responsibility of the passer to pass where it is safe. If they can't split to the front because there are bikes there and they don't think it's safe, then don't split to the front.

But what if they are on a 07 CBR600..?? Doesn't that make them more important than a shity little GN250..??

[JohnR]

But what if they are on a 07 CBR600..?? Doesn't that make them more important than a shity little GN250..??

Yeah...:slap:

[McJim]

I spent a year doing the Southern Motorway commute from Howick to Ponsnobby. Lots of lights coming through Mt. Wellington and lots of bikes. We all used to make room for each other at the front of the cars. Safety in numbers. None of the car drivers were going to fuck with 5 bikies.

And of course a lazy take off on a decent bike will leave most preformance cars for dust so it's not as though we were gonna hold anyone up.

If you're blocking lane 1a or 2a completely on a GN250 for example you are putting the rider behind at risk since there's a good chance that you will prevent that rider from reaching the safe zone in front of the traffic and leave him trapped between moving cars. Not big, not clever. If you are not going to be courteous to other bikes in this situation then please don't split.

Rant Over

[James Deuce]

If you're blocking lane 1a or 2a completely on a GN250 for example you are putting the rider behind at risk since there's a good chance that you will prevent that rider from reaching the safe zone in front of the traffic and leave him trapped between moving cars. Not big, not clever. If you are not going to be courteous to other bikes in this situation then please don't split.

Rant Over

Bollocks. In a nice way. Any 250cc motorcycle and up and quite a few scoots under that capacity have the capability to beat practically anything across an intersection with little effort. If a GN rider is splitting then they've already discovered this. I have way more trouble with n00b Hyo GV250 riders who have no clue what their mirrors are than anything except cyclists. There's a couple of lads in the Hutt on GVs who need to have a think about their technique. They have the right attitude but their Stituational Awareness needs work, as does their consistency.

Welly GN riders must be a different breed because they never hold me up and many times I get out of their way as I'm not comfortable splitting at much more than 10km/hr faster than the traffic flow. I have been known to go quicker, but I'm not comfortable with it.

There's an ex-racer in Wellington with one of NZ's most prestigious trophies on his shelf, who commutes on a GN. I couldn't keep up with him on a B-King.

We all have a responsibility to develop and utilise our situational awareness. There are always ways of maintaining your zone including pulling back into traffic if necessary.

[NOMIS]

Bollocks. In a nice way. Any 250cc motorcycle and up and quite a few scoots under that capacity have the capability to beat practically anything across an intersection with little effort. If a GN rider is splitting then they've already discovered this. I have way more trouble with n00b Hyo GV250 riders who have no clue what their mirrors are than anything except cyclists. There's a couple of lads in the Hutt on GVs who need to have a think about their technique. They have the right attitude but their Stituational Awareness needs work, as does their consistency.

Welly GN riders must be a different breed because they never hold me up and many times I get out of their way as I'm not comfortable splitting at much more than 10km/hr faster than the traffic flow. I have been known to go quicker, but I'm not comfortable with it.

There's an ex-racer in Wellington with one of NZ's most prestigious trophies on his shelf, who commutes on a GN. I couldn't keep up with him on a B-King.

We all have a responsibility to develop and utilise our situational awareness. There are always ways of maintaining your zone including pulling back into traffic if necessary.

Not if the person riding it cant ride for crap or have no ball's, which I seem to come across alot. No offence to GN riders but theres about 3 GN's im getting to know where I commute and they all hold me up im not going fast or being a maniac , then theres this lady on a wee scorpian who lets me through everytime and I always give her a Little wave to say thank you.

[James Deuce]

You can't read NOMIS, can you?

[Katman]

Not if the person riding it cant ride for crap or have no ball's, which I seem to come across alot.

Seems to me, your problem is you see motorcycling as a cock measuring contest.

[MarkH]

If you are not going to be courteous to other bikes in this situation then please don't split.

I would go further and say that if you are not going to be courteous to other motorists then stay the fuck of my road! Honestly the blatant displays of discourteous driving I have come across in Auckland at times really disgusts me!

e.g.
Motorway with 3 lanes, I am in lane 2. I see a gap on my right and indicate to change lanes. The driver several car lengths back in the right lane responds to my indicator by speeding up to close the gap. This is when I am in the car. This is not a description of a single incident, it is several incidents at different times with different drivers doing the same thing. Man I feel like hurting someone when that pull that sort of shit! I still indicate, but I can understand why some drivers may have learnt that it is best not to. My technique is to indicate and watch the car further back on the right with my mirrors to make sure he isn't speeding up, if he does then I change lanes immediately (no waiting 3 seconds) because, well, fuck him! Of course on the bike it is a little different, mainly because there are more lanes to use and changing lanes is a lot easier.

[Kendog]

I spent a year doing the Southern Motorway commute from Howick to Ponsnobby. Lots of lights coming through Mt. Wellington and lots of bikes. We all used to make room for each other at the front of the cars. Safety in numbers. None of the car drivers were going to fuck with 5 bikies.

And of course a lazy take off on a decent bike will leave most preformance cars for dust so it's not as though we were gonna hold anyone up.

If you're blocking lane 1a or 2a completely on a GN250 for example you are putting the rider behind at risk since there's a good chance that you will prevent that rider from reaching the safe zone in front of the traffic and leave him trapped between moving cars. Not big, not clever. If you are not going to be courteous to other bikes in this situation then please don't split.

Rant Over

Well the lights I ride don't have that many bikes riding to the front, so I have never been in a situation with five odd bikes. But I have been in many situations where cars are creeping on the line beside me just itching for a race. Like fuck I am gonna ride round in front of them so a bike can split up into the gap I was in.

Like I said, the responsibility is on the rear rider to choose what they are doing. This also covers splitting when you catch up to a slower bike. I don't know about you guys but when I am splitting my attention is dedicated to what's in front and beside me e.g. making sure cars are not going to change lanes suddenly. I do check my mirrors from time to time, but its a lot less often than normal.