2 Bikes, 1 Rider = 1 Rego?

**Daffyd** · 3rd November 2008, 18:46

Funny, I was musing over this same idea just yesterday and came up with the idea of sticking the ACC levy on drivers' licences.
The reasoning is, as above, one can only ride one bike-drive one vehicle at a time.

**Oakie** · 3rd November 2008, 19:13

One ACC fee per person instead of per bike? Think it thru:

Say ACC needs $15 million per year to cover all bike related injuries.
There are 70000 bikes registered in NZ (just a figure plucked out of thin air)
So $15mil divided by 70,000 = $214.28 per bike

Now change from ACC levy per bike to ACC levy per person and guess what. The cost of accidents to fund stays the same but the number of contributors goes down. The sum is now
$15 mil divided by (lets say) 40000 individual bikers.
The result is an now an amount payable per person of $375 per person

Yep. It's a win for those with more than one bike but a loss for the majority of riders who only have one bike.

Swings and roundabouts. Yes, you can only ride one bike at a time but you can go an have an accident every month and still be covered by ACC.

**James Deuce** · 3rd November 2008, 19:23

What Oakie said.

I think it should just be on petrol and diesel. The total take would go up and rego wouldn't feel like a burden

**kiwi cowboy** · 3rd November 2008, 19:29

Originally Posted by James Deuce

Doesn't work.

I've occasionally lent the second bike to people in need.

Yes but the person that borrows your bike has probably got a bike out of action or a cage the same thats redged so has paid acc levy so does work and bring it on.
Iwould go further and have personal redg like insurance is .i.e the bigger the risk you are the more you pay with no accident bonus like no claims bonus on insurance.

**kiwi cowboy** · 3rd November 2008, 19:33

Originally Posted by James Deuce

What Oakie said.

I think it should just be on petrol and diesel. The total take would go up and rego wouldn't feel like a burden

I see your point on fuel and the plus is the people running with no redg still have to pay acc as they gotta have fuel

**Trick.Import** · 3rd November 2008, 19:37

just put the plate and wof on the bike you gona ride and put sum tape over the manufacture`s name, the cops not gona look that close and wont no unless he`s a rider himself

**Ixion** · 3rd November 2008, 19:38

The problem with doing it on a personal basis, is that the only way to monitor it would be by a charge on licences. That has two issues . One, it would mean yearly DL renewals - and I bet LTNZ would want to charge extra for the renewal. And probably eye testes each year too. Second, more significant;y, there's a lot of people have a licence but use it only very rarely. Old folk and such, mums , lots. It wouldn't be fair to hit them for a full rego, but they wouldn't want to hand in their licence to save the charge

Which is why BRONZ's position is that it should be on fuel. More you drive, more the risk, more you may. And it's almost impossible to avoid, gotta have fuel. And because fuel already pays an ACC levy, they amount of red tape would actually diminish.

**rocketman1** · 3rd November 2008, 19:38

Mate, I totally agree with you, I cannot see why that is the case.
I suggest you just swap the plates to the other bikes, like all my mates do that have several road bikes.
You take the risk.
It is ridiculous to pay for rego for several bikes.
You can however register a bike for a day if you like or a week etc etc
and that only costs a few dollars, and keeps you safe with the law and the insurance companies.

**Ixion** · 3rd November 2008, 19:41

Originally Posted by rocketman1

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You can however register a bike for a day if you like or a week etc etc
and that only costs a few dollars, and keeps you safe with the law and the insurance companies.

You can, but unless it's forty years old, you can only do it once every three months. Because when the short term rego runs out you must put it back on hold, and when you do that, if you then reregister it again before three months has passed you get hit for the whole three month period. Utter barstools.

**98tls** · 3rd November 2008, 19:53

Originally Posted by rocketman1

Mate, I totally agree with you, I cannot see why that is the case.
I suggest you just swap the plates to the other bikes, like all my mates do that have several road bikes.
You take the risk.
It is ridiculous to pay for rego for several bikes.
You can however register a bike for a day if you like or a week etc etc
and that only costs a few dollars, and keeps you safe with the law and the insurance companies.

Really?i thought a month was the least amount of time.

**James Deuce** · 3rd November 2008, 19:55

Originally Posted by kiwi cowboy

Yes but the person that borrows your bike has probably got a bike out of action or a cage the same thats redged so has paid acc levy so does work and bring it on.
Iwould go further and have personal redg like insurance is .i.e the bigger the risk you are the more you pay with no accident bonus like no claims bonus on insurance.

It doesn't work if you are the only person "licensed" to ride or drive the vehicle.

If it goes against your license, the yearly fee would just shift from registration to license. It would end up costing us more because the license would have a yearly fee equivalent to ACC, would probably have to be renewed yearly to prove ACC had been paid and then Rego would still cost $70 or whatever it is.

**Forest** · 3rd November 2008, 19:59

Originally Posted by Ixion

Which is why BRONZ's position is that it should be on fuel. More you drive, more the risk, more you may. And it's almost impossible to avoid, gotta have fuel. And because fuel already pays an ACC levy, they amount of red tape would actually diminish.

I bet the V8 and hotrod fans really love you guys!