What decides how you vote?

[Finn]

can you get any more fascist?

You make is sound like fascism is a bad thing.

[James Deuce]

This country is ready for a perfectly proportioned fascist dictator with a penchant for black bikes.

[Yakman12]

You make is sound like fascism is a bad thing.

hahahaha fair enough

if I was the fascist dictator i'm sure the country would be a great place

[The Stranger:Me]

I think you should be proud of your son for choosing to vote differently from you, it shows he has the ability to think for himself and make his own decisions without simply doing what his old man thinks is right.

too many people in this world do not think for themselves, they simply take what the authority figures say as gospel

Labour and National are so similar is scary, your son voting for labour actually shows his political leanings are very close to your own

You can never be wrong for voting for a different party, you can only have your opinion on what is the greater good

You are most likely white middle-aged, middle class male, so chances are you will vote national (assumptions yay!)

Your son is different, so allow him to have a different opinion, in fact be proud of him for having a different opinion

Sure, you are mostly correct - except I wont be voting national.

I am very proud of him and he is of course most welcome to vote how he pleases, I wouldn't want it any other way. I would however like him to think carefully about why he is voting one way or the other and have a considered reason - other than who has the tastiest lollies at their lolly scramble.

[Yakman12]

every student I know is voting labour.

get jobs ffs.

Im not paying taxes so you can earn more than me because you have a pretty piece of paper, but dont actually know shit.

What a stupid comment, its obvious you don't value education based on how ridiculous your thinking is

education is the most important thing in this world, knowledge is power

without academia you wouldn't have all of the things in this world that make your life so easy

ignorant fool

[James Deuce]

This is NZ. Intellectuals are for burning.

[Yakman12]

This is NZ. Intellectuals are for burning.

hahaha yeah it seems like it

[Yakman12]

Sure, you are mostly correct - except I wont be voting national.

I am very proud of him and he is of course most welcome to vote how he pleases, I wouldn't want it any other way. I would however like him to think carefully about why he is voting one way or the other and have a considered reason - other than who has the tastiest lollies at their lolly scramble.

not voting national eh? act perhaps then, good stuff

[ManDownUnder]

I would however like him to think carefully about why he is voting one way or the other and have a considered reason - other than who has the tastiest lollies at their election year lolly scramble.

Words added to emphasise my view on said lolly scramble...!

As for me - I tend to look at the ills of the country, form an idea of what I'd do personally - then find those that I think hold the greatest chance of effecting those changes. Often it's a more extreme minor party than the big two (we have at the mo) because that makes the minor party more able to form a coalition with the major party more closely aligned to their policies, and deliver a parliament I want.

Right now (God bless MMP) there's a snowballs chance of anyone getting a simple majority, so I'm looking to equip the king maker I want in Govt.

[The Stranger:Me]

What a stupid comment, its obvious you don't value education based on how ridiculous your thinking is

education is the most important thing in this world, knowledge is power

without academia you wouldn't have all of the things in this world that make your life so easy

ignorant fool

Education takes many forms, including life experiences and what you learn in your job and what you learn about survival in society. There is value in each of these.
We need the C students to employ the A students, don't knock the C students.

Knowledge is power. Define power. A common measure in todays world is wealth. Does a good education assure wealth? Can people become wealthy or acquire power without education. Ask NZ's wealthiest man, an ex panel beater from West Auckland.

All the things that make life easier.
Like traffic congestion, smog, guns, nukes etc etc.
Was life meant to be easy? Hell, we've made it so easy that everyone get's fat and has to find the time in our busy (easy) lives to exercise. A large portion of the money and time invested in the health system is to cure ills caused by making life easier.

You call Morcs and ignorant fool.
Is this a case of pot kettle black?

[Yakman12]

Education takes many forms, including life experiences and what you learn in your job and what you learn about survival in society. There is value in each of these.
We need the C students to employ the A students, don't knock the C students.

Knowledge is power. Define power. A common measure in todays world is wealth. Does a good education assure wealth? Can people become wealthy or acquire power without education. Ask NZ's wealthiest man, an ex panel beater from West Auckland.

All the things that make life easier.
Like traffic congestion, smog, guns, nukes etc etc.
Was life meant to be easy? Hell, we've made it so easy that everyone get's fat and has to find the time in our busy (easy) lives to exercise. A large portion of the money and time invested in the health system is to cure ills caused by making life easier.

You call Morcs and ignorant fool.
Is this a case of pot kettle black?

Ah yes, you do make some good points

but..

don't forget NZ's richest man had some good fortune in the purchase of his first major business (buying the government printing office) in 1990 oh and he gained an MBA from Otago University in 1987, he was a STUDENT before he was successful

He used education to better himself, to become the person he is today

Yes modern society has caused ills that modern health-care fixes, your forgetting the fact that people live longer, work less and have more time to enjoy their lives.... all because of technology.. and education

[Yakman12]

oh yeah, I also forgot the fact the world RICHEST man Warren Buffet

was also a student (columbia business school graduate)

the second richest person in the world was also a student, oh wait.... and the third! and the 4th and the 5th...

looks like education is important

[The Stranger:Me]

oh yeah, I also forgot the fact the world RICHEST man Warren Buffet

was also a student (columbia business school graduate)

the second richest person in the world was also a student, oh wait.... and the third! and the 4th and the 5th...

looks like education is important

Your first reply was doing ok. Don't loose the plot.

We have all been students and I never argued against education, only that there are other valid perspectives beyond the narrow focus of your reply.

[Morcs]

What a stupid comment, its obvious you don't value education based on how ridiculous your thinking is

education is the most important thing in this world, knowledge is power

without academia you wouldn't have all of the things in this world that make your life so easy

ignorant fool

but we are talking about advanced education. Most people dont go uni to learn, they go to get the piece of paper that will help them walk into a decent job, and because of the way its funded and open to all, its essentially a free meal ticket.

I know some pretty dumb people who go / been to Uni. They should at least set a minimum IQ limit... otherwise its undervalued, thats why I never went.

Im 21, and never been to Uni, yet I will outclass any post grad student in my field.

[Yakman12]

but we are talking about advanced education. Most people dont go uni to learn, they go to get the piece of paper that will help them walk into a decent job, and because of the way its funded and open to all, its essentially a free meal ticket.

I know some pretty dumb people who go / been to Uni. They should at least set a minimum IQ limit... otherwise its undervalued, thats why I never went.

Im 21, and never been to Uni, yet I will outclass any post grad student in my field.

yeah you are right, i know plenty of stupid people that go to uni as well

it is still good for society them gaining *some* knowledge

apologies for calling you ignorant