Call for ban on smoking in cars with kids

[sinfull]

Should get in now b4 the fag does ! yeah plenty of them on kb !
China ??? No human rights, Inhuman womans rights ! Japan No womans rights ! Why are we waiting for No Human rights in NZ ???? Cause we're apathetic prats that's why !!!
know any good burnout pads ????

[PrincessBandit]

Do you remember being cooped up in the back seat of the Morrie Traveller while Gran and Pop smoked up a storm in the front?

Ahhhh, memories.

I do indeed Steve. And they used to have the windows up! Gag gag. Guess they could be excused for ignorance back then, if not lack of consideration. Seems a lifetime ago eh.

[Maha]

I do indeed Steve. And they used to have the windows up! Gag gag. Guess they could be excused for ignorance back then, if not lack of consideration. Seems a lifetime ago eh.

It might have been weed and that would explain alot...........

Just joking.....

[ManDownUnder]

Like someone said, slippery slopes. I don't smoke myself, never have, but I don't agree with demonising those who do.

I have the usual "point and laugh" approach - much like I do with drunk people.

OOOOOOOOOO MDU, we may well have to agree to disagree on this one. ...

I actually really get ticked at the holier than thou non smokers that are found around the place.

Mom

Done! More than happy to do that. Can't we have a childish hissy fit type falling out as well? It IS the KB way after all LOLOL!

Consider young Johnny's parents die in a horrific hovercraft accident one day and the Authorities assume responsibililty for Johnny's welfare.

Snippety snippety snip... yup...

My statement was that assuming all else was the same (i.e. the child was being fostered out either way, the ability of the individuals was the same, area being lived in was comparable, average daily temp, quality of toys at Christmas, attractive of favourite spinster Aunt after a few too many high octane egg nogs... etc etc etc...) I think a fostered child should go into a smoke free home.

I've lived in both, I've been under the care of two parents (in separate houses) one who smokes - the other who does not, and they both did a fantastic job of promoting a smoke free lifestyle, and the evils of smoking. That said - I'd prefer to spend time in the smoke free house.

That's NOT to say I prefer the company of the smoke free parent, but I think it'd be hard to argue my health was not affected, even to a small degree, by the presence of the various aromatic goodies smoke gives off.

I'm also a firm believer that kids model what they see done, rather than what they hear the should or should not do.

It's not a holier than though position (Mom...) - simply one of informed choice. I don't believe there's too much choice - or possibly that a simple choice exists - once smoking is taken up and the nicotine addiction is formed. I also don't believe little people can really make a truly informed choice when their role models are doing something, there will be peer pressue to do same and it's in the setting of a foster relationship which I know can be more challenging again, equating to stress, further increasing the chances of smoking.

Edit - re-reading the above - sounds like I was a fostered child - not so. But I was in a house where the occasional fostered child came through. I don't have a lot of experience - but I do have some.

[James Deuce]

In the UK that means that no kid will ever get a foster parent. Smoking and Drinking vastly outnumber Football and F1 as the major sedentary hobbies over there, with illicit drugs coming a close 3rd.

[Manxman]

Do you remember being cooped up in the back seat of the Morrie Traveller while Gran and Pop smoked up a storm in the front?

Ahhhh, memories.

I can recall sitting in room with a scouser workmate, who smoked perpetually. The room was not ventillated and there was always about two feet of the stuff hovering around the ceiling. As I was about 6ft tall, my head was always in the clouds.

Imagine that these days...

[Manxman]

The news last night stated that 96% of smokers agreed with a ban of smoking in cars.

Ok then (and let's assume for a minute that the media are correct for once), here's what I don't understand:

If that many people agree that smoking in their car is not good for their kids, why don't they just stop doing it. Why does some scientific knob and his billy no mates, have to pump for a law change. F.F.S

Better to educate and reinforce with smokers that the car is not the place to do it (there's already an ad to that effect on TV).

'Banning it' means in reality another nebulous law that the cops will have to enforce.

I'm not a smoker, therefore this doesn't even affect me, but I'm fecken ropable that - once again - the tail is wagging the dog in NZ. AAAARrgghhhh.

/rant over/ I need a ciggie...

[Fatt Max]

Btw, am a non-smoker. Filthy disgusting habit! BUT I do care about people's rights not being overridden by what's fast becoming a totalitarian state. (hope that's the right "-ian" word!) I'm sure you know what I mean:yes

I gave the smokes away 5 years ago when the wee man came along. I totally agree with your logic mate, well said

[PrincessBandit]

It might have been weed and that would explain alot...........

Just joking.....

Mwahahaha, even to this day I'm pretty sure my gran knows several kinds of weed (only none of them are of the smoking variety!!! ) despite the likelihood of several of her grandchildren being imbibers (but not our side of the family of course!) hahaha

[1 Free Man]

What gets me is us smokers are looked at as frikkin outlaws nowdays....FFS, I dont do weed, I dont drink much, I dont gamble much, but I like the odd smoke...And we are the ones targeted with the "disgusting" habbit. What is worse are seeing these frikkin kids get swilled up at night, going into town looking for fights etcetera and then chundering or pissing all over the place!....now that is disgusting, walking down some footpath on a saturday or sunday morning and seeing someones half digested stomach contents out on display!

I smoke, but not in my home. I have a right to smoke in my car if i want....

Been up town on a saturday night in Otaki. Ha Ha Ha. Hasn't changed since I was a Kid in Otaki (some time last century). At least the JUBE was open in those days. Best place to get ya piss if you were under age.

[1 Free Man]

know any good burnout pads ????

Yeah Try the north end of Te Waka road. Always used to be a good spot.
May be a little built in now days.

[theblacksmith]

Ban the government!!!

[Ixion]

Better still, gov the bannermint.

[sinfull]

Haha lived on the corner of Te Waka and Addington for ten yrs ! Know the spot !

[Toaster]

I get sick of seeing smokers biffing their cigarettes out the window instead of using their own ashtray. PRICKS.

Next person I see do that in peak hour traffic will end up with the bloody thing coming back through their window.