Had a crash yesterday

[roy.nz]

Yip so true thats why i wear full leathers and everything already had a fall with the fuell leathers and only came out with four broken bones on my foot when the bike landed on it but........ but besides that i didnt even come out with a scratch and the copper who helped me was also a good bloke...

[wysper]

In theory but it's not very effective for that and it's certainly not to be depended on. They'll tell you that at a Defensive Driving course.

It is posts like this that make me glad the previous owner of my bike installed an air horn. That does not get ignored. I am sure there will be some cases that people still won't hear it but most times it gets attention.

I am glad you are not too badly roughed up Centaurus. A good advert for full gear all the time.

[Quailboy]

Good to hear your fine.

Its scary when your not sure if they have seen you even after slowing down and getting ready to stop/countersteer.

Sometimes I wonder whether anyone would hear some motorbike horns (e.g. mine) as they aren't very loud, and definitely wouldn't be heard over a minimal volume car radio.

[Petal05]

I'm just a learner... the guys at work laugh at me because I wear ALL my protective gear, just purchased some second hand leathers for summer.
I will remember your words, and thank goodness your ok. I may not have got back on the bike if that were me.

[Ixion]

I have never figured out what strange convoluted process it is that prompts them to do this.

Nothing seems to stop them. They will see you, watch you approach, then when you are 2 or 3 metres away some strange explosion seems to occur in what would, in other species, pass for their mind . "Oh, derz a mudderboike cummin. Oi'll wait for him to go by. Oh, ez geddin clozer. N clozer. Oh, e'z almoz ere, so Oi'll go now, aw WTF da muddboike's hit me"

I've tried flashing lights, weaving, shaking my fist, beeping my horn (even the very loud one on the BMW) : nothing stops them.

And oddly, it is not, as you might think, a case of them being bastards trying to "scare the biker". Most of the time they have no idea at all why they decided to pull out. I've asked some (having stopped them after avoidance measure), and they simply don't know

The saving grace is, that with experience you will find the spidey sense gets quite good at identifying them before they do it, and you can be ready to ride behind them (I find that is usually best - there will be exceptions to be sure)

[FJRider]

Such times as those, air horns may not warn/stop them pulling out. "i'm in a cage ... what are they gonna do...hit me ???" situation. Or kids in the back seat, hands free cell phone conversation, or just away in la la land. Mind just not concentrating... on the road anyway...

[discotex]

I have never figured out what strange convoluted process it is that prompts them to do this.

Speed perception is very difficult with a narrow object. Slowing down or speeding up makes it harder a driver to guess your speed.

If you've ever stood at the pit wall you'll know what I mean. All you see is slow slow slow (coming towards you) fookin neowwwwwwwwwww (as they pass) slow slow slow (as they go down to turn 1).

Of course a decent driver would just wait until you've passed. An impatient retard on the other hand will convince themselves they have time to make it. Not to mention their ego makes them think you're slowing down to let them in.

Simple answer is to weave in your lane to trigger their speed perception. Probably would have avoided this accident. Try it and you'll be amazed.

[Charlie41]

Glad to hear you're ok!!
Major damage to bike???

[Forest]

It is posts like this that make me glad the previous owner of my bike installed an air horn. That does not get ignored. I am sure there will be some cases that people still won't hear it but most times it gets attention.

An air horn won't help if the driver is deaf.

But that's not an argument against airhorns! They're an excellent investment.

Glad to read the OP is ok. Am hoping the cage driver gets pinged.

[centaurus]

Glad to hear you're ok!!
Major damage to bike???

No structural damage as far as I can tell but most of the fairings will need to be replaced, mirrors,levers, bar ends, at least one exhaust, so on... the list is quite long, but nothing essential ( like engine, frame or the like).

I'll find next week when it gets assessed by the mechanic .

[CM2005]

lucky you're all goods mate... bad luck eh

[carver]

Good on you for giving some bling to the cops. Also, good that you're in one piece. Make a note to get in touch with a mentor near you, there's some skills that may help you avoid this situation in future.

ATGATT +1

most bins wins!

[FJRider]

most bins wins!

so whats your score...???? are you a winner or a loser ????

[carver]

so whats your score...???? are you a winner or a loser ????

this year i loose hard, not one!
fingers crossed!

[dpex]

The saving grace is, that with experience you will find the spidey sense gets quite good at identifying them before they do it, and you can be ready to ride behind them (I find that is usually best - there will be exceptions to be sure)[/QUOTE]

Ixion, yours is probably one of the more insightful comments I've read (except most of mine, of course/Chortle).

The Spidery-Sense, as you call it comes only after having traveled at least tens-of-thousands of Ks, if not hundreds of thousands, in any transport on wheels.

A couple of years ago I was teaching my grand-daughter to drive. We'd be pootling along and I'd say something like, 'Careful, that car is going to run right.'

At the time of my observation the driver had not signaled, but he'd touched his brakes twice, on a clear-ahead road. Also he'd drifted closer to the centre-line.

I actually don't know what sixth-sense enables me to predict some many unexpected maneuvers.

My GD would often ask, 'How did you know that was going to happen?'

My answer was always, 'I don't know. Just a lot experience, I guess.'

Experience= The Spidery Factor. Somewhere, deep inside your knowledge base you feel the web slightly shudder.

Because I've been around since the Dead Sea was only seriously sick, I figured, the other night, I've probably driven well over a million Ks. You simply can't get that level of exposure experience out of a training course, no matter how good it is.