Sorry Katman, but fu@king cagers!

[CookMySock]

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That is the whole idear of keeping the fuckwits off the roads!

Re-read my post. The whole point was, he's not a fuckwit, and there are plenty out there, and plenty of really dangerous ones too.

I'm not going to be baited into a slinging match in PB's thread. You go ahead and do what is right for your life. Make your own choices, go your own places, and have your own consequences - thats what freedom is all about. My actions don't cause you any consequences at all, except to ignite your wrath, but hey its your heart attack, not mine - die early at your own hand.

Any forum on the internet is not a place for fighting, its a place for like-minded people to exchange ideas and make friends. It's pretty clear some people don't like some of my ideas, and it must be clear to you the reverse is true, so why fight it?

I'm not going to fight you online. I have more interesting things to do IRL.

Steve

[fireliv]

All for Compulsory 3rd party, as long as the insurance companies dont purposely make it harder to get insurance since they would have a monopoly hold.

I would never ever go without insurance. NEVER. A while back I had a ding with a 2007 BMW convertable thing in the cage. No damage to me, but the BMW had damage to the corner and the bonnet. It only cost me a couple of hundy, but I prob did 2-3K worth of damage.

A few weeks after this I was listening to a case at court, where this chick was contesting a careless driving charge. She didnt have a defense at all, but her main reason for contesting it was that she was an uninsured driver who had crashed into a high costing sports car doing $40000 worth of damage. Her only hope was to be found not guilty of the charge (which she wasnt) or spend the rest of her life paying it off.

[Slyer]

Re-read my post. The whole point was, he's not a fuckwit, and there are plenty out there, and plenty of really dangerous ones too.

I'm not going to be baited into a slinging match in PB's thread. You go ahead and do what is right for your life. Make your own choices, go your own places, and have your own consequences - thats what freedom is all about. My actions don't cause you any consequences at all, except to ignite your wrath, but hey its your heart attack, not mine - die early at your own hand.

Any forum on the internet is not a place for fighting, its a place for like-minded people to exchange ideas and make friends. It's pretty clear some people don't like some of my ideas, and it must be clear to you the reverse is true, so why fight it?

I'm not going to fight you online. I have more interesting things to do IRL.

Steve

The point of forums is discussion.
Nobody is required to accept your opinions, you are expected to defend them however.

[jrandom]

... why fight it?

Because some 'ideas' cause real harm when allowed to propagate.

[CookMySock]

she was an uninsured driver who had crashed into a high costing sports car doing $40000 worth of damage. Her only hope was to be found not guilty of the charge (which she wasnt) or spend the rest of her life paying it off.

Yeah thats a really nasty lesson for anyone.

Nobody is required to accept your opinions

Of course! None of my opinions are facts. Take what you want from it, or nothing at all. It's a free internet.

you are expected to defend them however.

I do not care what I am "expected" to do. I will do as I choose, just like you will, and if you don't - you should. Really... live your own life.

Because some 'ideas' cause real harm when allowed to propagate.

Yeah but then only YOUR ideas get to propagate.

This is PB's thread. We're off topic. I'm out. Its called respect.

Steve

[dipshit]

Re-read my post. The whole point was, he's not a fuckwit,

Then he won't have any problem affording insurance. It will only penalize those with bad driving records.

Your little angel shouldn't have any problem then.

[jrandom]

Yeah but then only YOUR ideas get to propagate.

You're welcome to offer arguments against them if you can.

Its called respect.

In your case, it's called "talking complete bollocks, and then realising too late that it was unsupportable".

[sunhuntin]

lol, jr. couldnt agree more!

[Tank]

What's really sad is that he still wont answer the question.

Makes me think he really would take the gutless run and hide approach and to hell with the poor bastard he hit, and would encourage his son to do the same.

People who are cowards like that really piss me off.

Pathetic really as Im sure he would be the first to waaaaaa(tm) if someone did it to them.

[Speedracer]

My experience with 3rd party

Go to AA, ask for insurance on my bike (NS250R). "Sorry you need a full license or the license for 4 years" (I thought they said a full license for 4 years initially!)

Now I have my full, 3 years on and I went to the AA again. "Sorry you need to have your bike stored in a garage that is locked before we will give you 3rd party"

So no, I've never had even 3rd party on my bikes. Yes I might run into a lamborghini diablo's bumper but there's probably the same chance of winning lotto sadly.

[Tank]

My experience with 3rd party

Go to AA, ask for insurance on my bike (NS250R). "Sorry you need a full license or the license for 4 years" (I thought they said a full license for 4 years initially!)

Now I have my full, 3 years on and I went to the AA again. "Sorry you need to have your bike stored in a garage that is locked before we will give you 3rd party"

So no, I've never had even 3rd party on my bikes. Yes I might run into a lamborghini diablo's bumper but there's probably the same chance of winning lotto sadly.

There are plenty of places that will insure you.

Heck - I had an exemption - so I did my learners on a 600cc $11.5k bike. had been riding for 2.5 months and full cover was only $650.

Simple really, phone around.

As for hitting a Lambos bumper - you dont have to - there are plenty of $100k + cars on the road that are expensive to repair.

Heck a BMW X5 wing mirror is around 5k (so I read on here somewhere)

[blairh]

I've got full insurance on my ninja, with a learners license, never had a bike before, for under $400/yr. Only have to drop it once and it's paid for itself.. let alone if you hit someone else. I'd never ride (or drive my car for that matter) without insurance, it's just not worth it...

People just need to factor in insurance as one of the costs of having a bike - the bike itself, the gear, the gas, the maintenance, the insurance... it's all important!

[Katman]

This is PB's thread. We're off topic. I'm out. Its called respect.

Don't be ridiculous. I'm sure PB is just as interested as the rest of us to find out how you could possibly reconcile your two conflicting posts that Tank has quoted.

[scumdog]

My experience with 3rd party

Go to AA, ask for insurance on my bike (NS250R). "Sorry you need a full license or the license for 4 years" (I thought they said a full license for 4 years initially!)

Now I have my full, 3 years on and I went to the AA again. "Sorry you need to have your bike stored in a garage that is locked before we will give you 3rd party"

So no, I've never had even 3rd party on my bikes. Yes I might run into a lamborghini diablo's bumper but there's probably the same chance of winning lotto sadly.

Sound more like you were asking for Full AND third party insurance.
After all, why would it make any difference whether your bike was stored in a garage that was locked etc - it's really only when you're riding it that you're ever going to hit another vehicle/property and need third party insurance, am I right or did I miss something?

[swbarnett]

The other day I was going along a long straight at about 90 with a few cars in front of me.
On the other side of the road was a passing lane, no cars in sight. The lines are white so I go to pass on their passing lane when some boy racer comes around the corner coming straight at me.
I'm thinking oh yeah he'll realise he's meant to keep left and get out of my way. Does he? NO.
Nearly fucking takes me out...

It sounds to me like you were overtaking on a blind corner. Could you see that the lane was clear for the entire length you would need it to pass?