Wednesday Evening Cruises 2008-09

[imdying]

I can't afford to get in shit because of someone elses mistakes. I'm seriously considering taking a break from these rides and that's sad because I love them.

Pop down to the plod shop and see if you can't convince one of them to bring their BMW along each week. If nothing else you'll have a direct line to the comms room should the worst happen again.

[JWALKER]

Jeff I am sure that your input plus that of others is appreciated but those who you help out, and sure you point out you might not be the most experienced of us but there are still skills you can pass on, basics that can be practiced are the best.





And in that lies the problem mate, if you and Izzy could at some point, (and I know this will be difficult, (p/t)), could slow down and ride towards the back, see what guys are doing, then offer help with lines, control etc then we would be all be better off.

Jm, i do point out everytime someone asks me that im not the most experinced rider, far from it, but am help to help in anyway, but i kinda gave offering any help, when i got hammered with ridicule about my riding ability when i did try to help out some other bikers.i know will izzy will be happy to ride at the back and help, so would i, but, we just don't see the point when we get flacked about it.
i will ride at the back next wednesday and see how it goes, but as long as we are left to help out and not attacked about it.

[JWALKER]

Jmenoic, we all want the same, a enjoyable ride with no incidents and people being able to help each other out.
hopefully we can steer towards that rather than the last couple of wednesdays

[JMemonic]

Ok folks I am actually that concerned I have already stated I will be making up a first aid kit for the bike in the form of a tank bag, any donations towards its contents would be appreciated, but that is not what this post is about.

I have just gotten off the phone with the nice folks at St Johns discussing a motorcycle specific course for us, we can have a maximum of 18 people attending it will be a 4.5 hour course, and we can either have it on a Saturday morning or one evening, the course cost total is about $835 including, thus if we can get a full 18 it will work out to about $46 each.

They will cover off
CPR
Bleeding
Neck, and Spinal (including helmet removal)
Head immobilisation
Fractures.

To some of you this will be old hat, but so what practice, practice, and more practice cant hurt, neither can training.

I need numbers folks.

Link to thread

[alley cat]

Groups of sportsbikes will always result in riders who want to fang it. No amount of online "ride nicely" will ever change this.

Thank god Bikes were made for fanging!
Pehaps a bit more experience, and road manners wouldnt hurt, but im very guilty of being a hooligan so i wont preach.

Pop down to the plod shop and see if you can't convince one of them to bring their BMW along each week.

Keep him well away from me. I bite.
And im running low on demerits.

[El Stevo]

And in that lies the problem mate, if you and Izzy could at some point, (and I know this will be difficult, (p/t)), could slow down and ride towards the back, see what guys are doing, then offer help with lines, control etc then we would be all be better off.

I think more the point here is that some of the 'faster' (yeah go on... shoot me for saying it!) riders don't wan't to hang back. Thats why they group together and have a ride with each other. I like to meet socially at BK but I have no interest in playing 'riding instructer' to strangers.

I am a strong believer that people should only take advice from someone they know and trust, a lot of advice that gets given comes from people that shouldn't be giving it...

If people are serious about increasing their skills then:

1) go to the track (Tuesdays and Fridays are best)
2) spend more time riding - practice makes perfect
or 3) spend some one on one time with a trusted rider, groups of novices are not the best place to learn.

Another thing that bothers me about this ride is all the focus on new riders and 'forcing ones infinate wisdom' onto them. IT'S NOT THE NEW RIDERS THAT ARE COMING TO GRIEF!

*steps down from soapbox*

[helenoftroy]

I'm seriously considering taking a break from these rides and that's sad because I love them.

Jmenoic, we all want the same, a enjoyable ride with no incidents and people being able to help each other out.
hopefully we can steer towards that rather than the last couple of wednesdays

I think I need a break too...

Last summer seemed different...whats changed?

[Ducky848]

[edit] actually I'm gonna stay outta this

[helenoftroy]

Ok folks I am actually that concerned I have already stated I will be making up a first aid kit for the bike in the form of a tank bag, any donations towards its contents would be appreciated, but that is not what this post is about.

I will do this.....no problem

[Transalper]

A thought from me.
What if we gather those that want to ride in the manner of the original learner friendly concept and hold them off to one side for a separate brief to be held after the fast, intermediates and 'just out for a ride people' have all left.
That should leave a much smaller more manageable and like minded group ready to go with out the confusion of who's who and where the heck did everyone go.
Then do something like buddy those who are left up so that you know who you are following, that the rest of us are are going to the one destination and that the person you are following knows you are there to keep an eye on.
This last group would get away from the car park a good 5 or 10 minutes after the others so will have no one cutting them up and when we arrive at the destination all the queues for food etc will be gone.
The initial meeting at BK will be just as social as ever, the destination will be just as social as ever but the ride for this smaller group should feel much more organised and probably more satisfying for those who'd really like to put the cruise and learner friendly back in to Wednesday. Yes I'd be one of them.

[Blackbox]

...but it's hard for some guys to want to offer advice to other riders, when all the get is flack for trying to help.

True. I've noticed a few things, but since I'm relatively new I haven't said anything. For the record, if anyone spots anything they think I could improve on... please let me know! I'm on the silver SV650.

[Blackbox]

What if we gather those that want to ride in the manner of the original learner friendly concept and hold them off to one side for a separate brief to be held after the fast, intermediates and 'just out for a ride people' have all left...

Excellent idea. My son is buying his first bike tonight, and will soon be along on these evening rides... this would be excellent for him and others just getting into things.

[mj_scorpio]

Ok folks I am actually that concerned I have already stated I will be making up a first aid kit for the bike in the form of a tank bag, any donations towards its contents would be appreciated, but that is not what this post is about..........
I need numbers folks.

Link to thread

I would be interested deffinately some useful skills i wouldn't mind learning!

[McWild]

El Stevo mentioned about the track.
Somebody wanna tell me about how it works? I've done some research via google in the past but it hasn't actually explained when the track is open, where it is (ruapuna), or... anything.
Been interested in paying it a visit for a while but yeah, obvious obstacles.
If anyone wants to contribute via PM, profile, or this thread I'd greatly appreciate it. If anyone's keen to go there at the same time that'd be awesome too but not too worried. Cheers.

[Ducky848]

El Stevo mentioned about the track.
Somebody wanna tell me about how it works? I've done some research via google in the past but it hasn't actually explained when the track is open, where it is (ruapuna), or... anything.
Been interested in paying it a visit for a while but yeah, obvious obstacles.
If anyone wants to contribute via PM, profile, or this thread I'd greatly appreciate it. If anyone's keen to go there at the same time that'd be awesome too but not too worried. Cheers.

PM me dude, I am heading out to track this Tuesday morning, I will fill you in.