Radar guns and tickets, how does it work?

[Renegade]

I can tell this for certain; it wasn't a farkin' increased standard of driving.

thats the truth

[5150]

So what happens if you ride in a group of say 5-10 bikes. Cop comes the other way and gets a reading on the radar that shows over the limit. If he turns around and pulls you over while the rest do a runner. Does he have to prove that it was your bikes speed on his radar? I think there is a case where you can contest the fine in court based on the fact that there were multiple bikes so how can the cop single you out from a group and prove it was you?

[MarkH]

So what happens if you ride in a group of say 5-10 bikes. Cop comes the other way and gets a reading on the radar that shows over the limit. If he turns around and pulls you over while the rest do a runner. Does he have to prove that it was your bikes speed on his radar? I think there is a case where you can contest the fine in court based on the fact that there were multiple bikes so how can the cop single you out from a group and prove it was you?

How's this:
As I was ridding along this group of bikers went passed me, as this happened a cop coming the other way got a radar lock and pulled me over. It wasn't me that was speeding, it was that other lot, and I don't know their names or anything about them!

[MarkH]

That is of course until they fine you for using a radar detector AND give you a speeding fine because they use the radar in bursts to fool those with detectors.

Anyone know if that change to make detectors and jammers illegal was in effect since June, or was it part of the legislation delayed until next year?

I don't think there is anything definite about detectors becoming illegal - for a start their purpose is to get drivers to slow down, why should that be illegal?

[scumdog]

I don't think there is anything definite about detectors becoming illegal - for a start their purpose is to get drivers to slow down, why should that be illegal?

At the risk of the above being a troll....

Thet also allow drivers to speed when the detector says there's no radar about.

(I think)

[Ixion]

No, that is a good way to get a ticket! Cos sneaky dirty underhanded cops drive around with their radars in instant on mode, and only flick them on when they see you. (Mr S would never do that, I'm sure)

Radar detector indicates a cop, slow down. Radar indicator is quiet, means nothing. Fall back to logic and the Mk II eyeball (if you are still using the old MK I eyeball, upgrade ASAP)

So, no, they don't allow drivers to speed when the detectors says there's no radar around. Cos in that case, the ping that the detector detects will be the ping that pings you.

[Naki Rat]

No, that is a good way to get a ticket! Cos sneaky dirty underhanded cops drive around with their radars in instant on mode, and only flick them on when they see you. (Mr S would never do that, I'm sure)

Radar detector indicates a cop, slow down. Radar indicator is quiet, means nothing. Fall back to logic and the Mk II eyeball (if you are still using the old MK I eyeball, upgrade ASAP)

So, no, they don't allow drivers to speed when the detectors says there's no radar around. Cos in that case, the ping that the detector detects will be the ping that pings you.

From my own experience HPs tend to flick the instant on or speed gun on frequently enough for a detector to pick up the 'bounce' or 'overspray' of the radar targeting vehicles before you. By the time you are in range of the radar you have often already picked up a number of warnings.

Detectors are definitely not a licence to travel at warp speed however and probably will give enough warning to allow you to loose 15-20kmh before being in radar range depending on whether you hit the brakes quickly enough. Obviously every situation is different and experienced HPs will choose the radar site to maximise their advantage. Similarly experience with using a detector will teach you where and when its effectiveness may be compromised, so you ride/drive accordingly.

Detectors' best effectiveness is in avoiding those round town concentration lapses that otherwise would result in annoying 10-15 kmh infringements.

[scumdog]

No, that is a good way to get a ticket! Cos sneaky dirty underhanded cops drive around with their radars in instant on mode, and only flick them on when they see you. (Mr S would never do that, I'm sure)

Radar detector indicates a cop, slow down. Radar indicator is quiet, means nothing. Fall back to logic and the Mk II eyeball (if you are still using the old MK I eyeball, upgrade ASAP)

So, no, they don't allow drivers to speed when the detectors says there's no radar around. Cos in that case, the ping that the detector detects will be the ping that pings you.

So actually no use at all then??

[Jantar]

So actually no use at all then??

Of course they are. When the detector goes off I can check the GPS and I know exactly what speed I was doing when the radar locks on.

[Ixion]

So actually no use at all then??

Oh, no, quite useful. Cos most cops is a bit greedy and instead of reserving their instant on for prime targets, they tend to flick a ping at anything that looks like it might maybe be going more than 111kph. That's often quite a lot of vehicles, and as the range of the detector is a couple of km, you get a "there's a cop somewhere about" message. Which means, no speeding. Which is why I think they do indeed reduce speeds, overall. The cop may be several streets away, going the other direction but you still slow down. Which you wouldn't do without the detector. But you can't assume no beep = no cop. It's one way. Beep = cop, slow down. No beep, maybe cop maybe not, revert to eyeball and spidey sense.

If cops were REALLY smart, they'd install a few repeater boxes that just broadcast radar signals at strategic locations around the country (solar powered). And encourage everyone to have radar detectors. And watch everyone going real slow and careful.

[Stormer]

If cops were REALLY smart, they'd install a few repeater boxes that just broadcast radar signals at strategic locations around the country (solar powered). And encourage everyone to have radar detectors. And watch everyone going real slow and careful.

Go easy on the tips, it`s an enough of a battle out there now as it is.

[FJRider]

Quick fix... more cops on the road. If everyone drove/rode slow... no revenue "gathered"... pay more tax instead. User (speeder) pays, or everyone pays...you choose...

[madandy]

User pays...thanks.

[scumdog]

Which means, no speeding. Which is why I think they do indeed reduce speeds, overall. The cop may be several streets away, going the other direction but you still slow down. Which you wouldn't do without the detector. But you can't assume no beep = no cop. It's one way. Beep = cop, slow down. No beep, maybe cop maybe not, revert to eyeball and spidey sense.

If cops were REALLY smart, they'd install a few repeater boxes that just broadcast radar signals at strategic locations around the country (solar powered). And encourage everyone to have radar detectors. And watch everyone going real slow and careful.

Or have the mate on front leaving his radar on - while second cop uses instant on.

[scumdog]

Oh, no, quite useful. Cos most cops is a bit greedy and instead of reserving their instant on for prime targets, they tend to flick a ping at anything that looks like it might maybe be going more than 111kph.

THAT'S where I was doing it wrong - what was I thinking by only checking those who seem to be doing about 120 or so...