Best '90's 400cc sporty bike?

**Fatjim** · 8th January 2009, 08:01

You're not smart enough to be an englishman.

**scracha** · 8th January 2009, 13:00

Originally Posted by Fatjim

You're not smart enough to be an englishman.

I'm smart enough to be fucking an Englishwoman.

**carver** · 8th January 2009, 13:37

the fzr is shit

**vifferman** · 8th January 2009, 13:40

Originally Posted by samgab

The SV650 is definitely on my test ride list. It's been on and off and on again the list. It never much appealed to me for some inexplicable reason, but so many people speak so well of it, that I'd be an idiot not to at least take one for a ride and see what it's like, closer to purchase time.

It'd be a better buy from the point of view of being easier to get parts for, and easier to work on.
I test-rode one once, almost solely because people raved about it, and I didn't like it at all - sounded and performed too much like a lawnmower engine in comparison to the VFR750 I'd previously owned. Ended up buying a VTR1000 instead.

**samgab** · 8th January 2009, 17:08

Originally Posted by dave222

I may be interested in buying/swapping whenever suites you. Its a black black, has a fair bit of scratches down one side as I got a little too keen on the gravel, runs mint although she needs a few revs when cold. Has current rego, new front and rear discs and pads. Wof expired last month and have not gotten another yet as needs new tires, they are not worn just have some slight sidewall cracks. Send me a message and we will talk more.

Dave, post a message if you're keen on the FXR150... I'm thinking of trading it in on a CBR250 or something, and possibly as soon as tomorrow, so if you get this message and you're keen, drop a reply ASAP!
Cheers.

**racefactory** · 8th January 2009, 18:05

Originally Posted by vtec

Several things,

Also, I don't see why the V4 should get better torque, only real difference to the IL4 will be the way the power pulses. Some do say it gets better power down low, but the torque figure is merely the maximum torque which could well be at different points in the rev range and still end up with the same max power and max torque figures.

This is right, it doesn't produce any more torque at all it is just more useable torque down in the low and mid revs.

Still has the same japanese 40nm torque like all of them produce.

On another note, if you put a free flow exhaust on a 89 model nc30 which is the one which has the different jetting, then it can run dangerously lean.

**samgab** · 8th January 2009, 21:58

Check out the HUGE lead in the polls for the Honda V4!

That's amazing.

There are quite a few votes for the Kwakka ZXR400 too, but they're very hard to find, very rare in street trim. But still dwarfed in comparison to the VFR.

**scracha** · 9th January 2009, 13:29

In case anyone cares, I think the honda hawk in the USA was the 650 one (as opposed to the 400 bros).

**vifferman** · 9th January 2009, 13:34

Originally Posted by scracha

In case anyone cares, I think the honda hawk in the USA was the 650 one (as opposed to the 400 bros).

True dat.

In case anyone cares, the "Superhawk" (VTR1000) was largely developed in Mrka as a replacement for the Hawk, and to compete head on with the Ducati 900 SS.

**samgab** · 9th January 2009, 15:58

Originally Posted by vifferman

True dat.

In case anyone cares, the "Superhawk" (VTR1000) was largely developed in Mrka as a replacement for the Hawk, and to compete head on with the Ducati 900 SS.

Interesting.
In case anyone cares, the Honda HawkGT NT650 was designed by Toshiaki Kishi and was the second Honda with Pro-Arm having the model designation RC31 coming immediately after the RC30.

**svr** · 9th January 2009, 16:44

Originally Posted by vtec

Best 400cc and below bike...

CBR250RR for the win haha.
Check these results. I've posted them far too many times. Just makes me laugh.
http://www.silver-bullet.co.nz/event...p?eventid=5510

Makes me smile too

I've ridden most of those old 400s. Get an old sv. Trust me.

**vtec** · 9th January 2009, 16:51

Originally Posted by samgab

Interesting.
In case anyone cares, the Honda HawkGT NT650 was designed by Toshiaki Kishi and was the second Honda with Pro-Arm having the model designation RC31 coming immediately after the RC30.

Hmmm, wonder if the RC31 handles aswell as the rest of the sporty Honda's from that era, if so, would be a great bike for F3/Pro twin, and nobody rides them.

**samgab** · 9th January 2009, 17:07

Originally Posted by svr

Makes me smile too

I've ridden most of those old 400s. Get an old sv. Trust me.

I just found out last night that there used to be an SV400. One of my workmates has one.

**samgab** · 9th January 2009, 17:09

Originally Posted by vtec

Hmmm, wonder if the RC31 handles aswell as the rest of the sporty Honda's from that era, if so, would be a great bike for F3/Pro twin, and nobody rides them.

It was amazingly ahead of it's time, in terms of chassis design and geometry, from what I've read about it. There were a whole bunch of bikes that came out later, like certain Triumphs and and 2003+ SV650's which had almost identical chassis design apparently.

**dave222** · 9th January 2009, 17:35

Originally Posted by samgab

Dave, post a message if you're keen on the FXR150... I'm thinking of trading it in on a CBR250 or something, and possibly as soon as tomorrow, so if you get this message and you're keen, drop a reply ASAP!
Cheers.

I can not purchase it right now, thought you were selling when getting full? I will see what i can do.

Cheers.