Is this legal?

[Elysium]

They're concerned about after market pipes on a bike being too loud? Maybe they should concentrate on those anoying Rotas and shit-box racers with their fart pipes dragging on the ground, they're more common and at the most anoying times of the morning and night.

**end rant**

[reofix]

I'm sick of other peoples noise... harleys with open pipes ... sportboys with aftermarkets... (both wear earplugs FFS)... ear watering car stereos (get an ipod and blow your head off ... leave us alone!!!)... the display of noise is a pathetic small boy "look at me" ... time to move on gentlemen

[short-circuit]

I just looked up the cost - only about $130 - 200

At that price get them done and the fine will go away.

LTNZ text follows:

The Objective Noise Test is a stationary tail-pipe noise test procedure based on international standards and can only be carried out by an approved low volume vehicle (LVV) certifier. If your vehicle passes the Objective Noise Test the LVV certifier will attach a label to the vehicle and issue a certificate. The cost of the test is about $130–200, depending on location. It is a one-off cost provided the exhaust system is maintained in good condition and is not modified further.

Don't talk shite - the onus of prove should be on them. They want to lay the charge - they should pay for the test (as with breath/blood alcohol)

[Tank]

They're concerned about after market pipes on a bike being too loud? Maybe they should concentrate on those anoying Rotas and shit-box racers with their fart pipes dragging on the ground, they're more common and at the most anoying times of the morning and night.

**end rant**

Playing devils advocate - but why are loud cars any worse than loud bikes?

[short-circuit]

Dont want to be negative here but might they just suggest that the "tested" pipes were not the ones fitted at the time of the offence?

That's where a decibel meter would help at the time plod pulls said biker over

[The Stranger:Me]

I don't recall ever having any specific tests done on the sound of my exhaust/bike when I went and got a warrant........ do they do that now?

We had a cage fail a noise test at a testing station.
Took the vehicle to Woolf Muflers, they put in 2 resonators, took it back and it passed the re-test.
I believe they are meant to and as noted, some do.

[Tank]

That's where a decibel meter would help at the time plod pulls said biker over

The guy has short straight pipes (see his post earlier).

I think we (and the cops) can all tell that they would be noticeably louder than stock.

If you change stock pipes for louder ones - get them certed (just like cage drivers have to do).

The bikes are signed off as meeting NZ requirements when its new. You make changes you need to be able to prove that its legal. simple really.

[jtzzr]

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Why should the onus be on a biker to prove they are complying with the law when they can easily test it then and there as they do with Roadside Breath Testing Devices

I hope the plod do`nt read that .

Breath Testing for Motorcycles, I can picture it now.
Officer: "Please Mr Motorcycle this is a Random Decibel Check, breathe into this whilst stating your make and cc rating".

Motorcycle:BROOMMM, BROOMM

Officer: "Unfortunately Mr Motorcycle you have failed the evidential Decible Test, I now require you you to accompany me to the nearest Decibel Testing facility".

Nooooooooooo

[Elysium]

Playing devils advocate - but why are loud cars any worse than loud bikes?

Ok compare a Honda VTR 1000 with custom pipes to that of any cheap boy racer car with big bore exhaust. Which sounds better?

[The Stranger:Me]

Don't talk shite - the onus of prove should be on them. They want to lay the charge - they should pay for the test (as with breath/blood alcohol)

Shouldn't the onus be on the person modifying a vehicle to demonstrate that the vehicle still complies with the law? If you don't want the hassle, don't modify it.
The govt sets the laws and vehicle importers must demonstrate compliance with these laws, how is this any different?

[reofix]

"why are loud cars any worse than loud bikes?"

err they arent... crush them all!! send the scrap to china
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[Motu]

And so, it starts.

Been a long time coming - but it's worth the wait.

[short-circuit]

The bikes are signed off as meeting NZ requirements when its new. You make changes you need to be able to prove that its legal. simple really.

No, for good reason the burden of proof should rest with the state (as the have considerably more resources at their disposal). If the state implements new legislation governing rules about noise emission, then the state should foot the bill for policing/testing.

[Blackshear]

Fuck. Guess I should find my baffles and make an exhaust tip

[Tank]

Ok compare a Honda VTR 1000 with custom pipes to that of any cheap boy racer car with big bore exhaust. Which sounds better?

Its subjective.


A Boi racer would say phat pipes on a Subaru sound better.

My mum would say both sound like arse.

Someone who hears them screaming past their house at all hours wont care what sounds best - they want quality of like in their home - without having loud as fuck pipes waking them and their baby at 2am.