What is the best way to be noticed by cagers?

**SixPackBack** · 18th January 2009, 21:45

Originally Posted by The Guzzi Widow

Lol, are you sure? How do you really know? Have you tried it?

No, not tried......they would have to be giant breasts before I could consider the proposition....would be a great publicity stunt

**Genestho** · 18th January 2009, 21:48

Originally Posted by Headbanger

And then we get ACC sponsored adds claiming bikes appear out of nowhere.

No they fuckin don't, they came down the damn road, in plain sight,we were there the entire time.

Don't just look twice, look fucking properly, and give way to the motorcycle.

It would be a different story if after knocking us off our bikes we got to eat their babies.

When I had a meeting with my local ACC lady with regards to my wee mission now..
The "bikes just appear" advertising campaign had just "hit the streets" in Welly...They said they were keen to have a meet with reps of different factions of the Motorcycling community to discuss future campaign ideas to educate Motorists..are the Bronz people here? Did this ever happen?
Is it in the pipeline?
And if not, I believe thats an avenue worth looking at..apparently they were dead keen on working WITH the community...to educate Motorists..
I recon theres nothing stopping concerned members of the community from submitting logical ideas to them, unless the campaign designers are Motorcyclists how can they educate motorists logically?

**Winston001** · 18th January 2009, 21:55

Originally Posted by Elysium

True, even supermarket trolly boys wear them..but they're very conspicuous at night time so I can see their value.

Conspicuous trolly boys eh........oh well, if it helps you to find them when you have that special need........

**Ixion** · 18th January 2009, 22:00

Originally Posted by SixPackBack

I do high K's in and around Auckland and in my experience the inclusion of a 6 foot high throbbing pink penis coated in gallons of jism and grafted to my helmet would make little difference to visibility.....fuckers just do not look!

But have you actually *tried* it ?

**Genestho** · 18th January 2009, 22:02

Originally Posted by Ixion

BVut have you actually *tried* it ?

yea thats what I was angling at..

**Winston001** · 18th January 2009, 22:04

Originally Posted by Mystic13

The reason most don't see you is that they can't comprehend your blistering speed and acceleration. They're only used to car level performance.

Cage's will often comment that they didn't see us or we came out of nowhere. And we did for them. They don't see bikes often enough to be able to judge the speeds we travel at. Heck i've even been surprised by bikes zooming past that I didn't even see in my mirrors.

Thanks for all the input everybody. I think Mystic's post makes a very good point - motorists are used to judging car speeds, and bikes being much smaller, look further away and are ignored.

I'm sure I've seen research that says hi-vis vests aren't effective (but better than nothing) and Ixion's point about how they are everywhere these days underlines that.

Modulators - exactly what I was trying to remember and worth a try.

Ultimately there are some stupid drivers on the road. If they don't notice fire-engines and ambulances, then bikers are snowballs in hell. Can't do much about that except keep a wary eye open.

**SixPackBack** · 18th January 2009, 22:08

Originally Posted by Ixion

BVut have you actually *tried* it ?

You first

Worn all sorts of vis clothing, different coloured bikes, lights on-lights off with little discernible difference in cager attempted kill rate.

**Ixion** · 18th January 2009, 22:26

Originally Posted by The Guzzi Widow

When I had a meeting with my local ACC lady with regards to my wee mission now..
The "bikes just appear" advertising campaign had just "hit the streets" in Welly...They said they were keen to have a meet with reps of different factions of the Motorcycling community to discuss future campaign ideas to educate Motorists..are the Bronz people here? Did this ever happen?
..

BRONZ Auckland have heard nothing of it.

**Ixion** · 18th January 2009, 22:28

Originally Posted by SixPackBack

You first

Well, it is your idea. I just think you should actually TRY it before saying it doesn't work.

**McJim** · 18th January 2009, 22:43

Originally Posted by SixPackBack

I do high K's in and around Auckland and in my experience the inclusion of a 6 foot high throbbing pink penis coated in gallons of jism and grafted to my helmet would make little difference to visibility.....fuckers just do not look!

Hmmm interesting concept...I, for example AM a 6 foot throbbing penis and am often unnoticed at junctions.

You need not try it young 6PB for it does not work

**myvice** · 18th January 2009, 22:48

Some odd little facts for you.
During the 2nd world war some boffin found that if you stuck fucking big spotlights on the side of your tank it didn’t have a silhouette... Would have worked till some higher paid boffin came along with a radar.
When an insect like a hornet or wasp attacks it will pause then fly straight at its target as it is hard to judge its speed and distance.
The average driver looks for approximately .3 of a second.
One light on your bike and it’s too hard to judge speed and two lights look like a car further away.
Having a noisy exhaust works for pedestrians and cyclists but a modern car is a quiet little bubble and they can’t hear you.
As you round a corner from a certain angle it can look like you aren’t moving, next time you are out pick an object on the side of the road and look at the surrounding landscape. There will be some things which look still as your angle and speed moves in conjunction with your perspective.
Drivers remember what they were taught in kindergarten, look for cars!
Most people can’t think beyond their own experiences, the fact that you can squeeze in between two cars to get to the gap ahead of them hasn’t occurred to them, as they can’t.
Other things they can’t do is go from one lane to another by moving 200mm to the left or right, or go from 80 to 100 in about a second with little effort.
We are not seen as a threat, however, cops and bikey gangs are so they get noticed as a self preservation exercise.
I’m bigger than them, therefore they can’t hurt me = ignore.
Some tips for young players, people wearing hats will not look and have no chance of catching movement in their mirrors.
That van full of kids has a frazzled driver, use caution.
Farmers can’t look right when leaving gates on quads or tractors, it’s a clause in a contract that must be adhered to at all times under pains of death.
When towing boats on windy roads the centre line is merely suggestive, ether side is fine.
Look before crossing intersections! Your green light won’t help your shattered leg heal faster.
That taxi is going to do something stupid, and that bus will pull out with his left indicator on.
Final note; Big fluro petrol truck wiped out a car, the driver didn’t see it,
Can’t see a day-glow tanker with lights on? We don’t have a chance!