No helmets on forecourts

**Swoop** · 30th January 2009, 08:59

Originally Posted by mattian

Its not like comparing apples with oranges at all. Its all about theft. Have you been watching the news lately? theft of fuel is at an all time high.

By car drivers.
A bike takes, perhaps, $15-$20 of petrol at most. If someone cannot pay for that I would be very surprised. Sunhuntin's post confirms this.

As someone who has never driven or ridden away from a petrol station without paying, I fail to see an issue.

I also keep the lid on when in the bottle shop. I have only been asked to remove it once while in there, and my reply of "do you have this same policy with burkah wearing people?" immediately shut the person up and got her thinking...
I walked out with a grin, because of the obvious...

**Slyer** · 30th January 2009, 09:29

You should definitely remove your helmet buying booze...

**shafty** · 30th January 2009, 09:35

My flip top (Helmet, not head) means I have no probs......

.....but many moons ago, Go Gal was asked, no, TOLD to take her helmet off when PAYING for gas.

Her response was simply DOH, I've already got the gas, it doesn't bother me if you don't serve me! - much to the embarrassment of the attendant as the rest of the queue chuckled...

**Headbanger** · 30th January 2009, 09:52

I always take my helmet off at the servo, takes all of 3 seconds, and lets my ears and bald spot swing in the breeze for a few minutes. can't say I care about ditching it on the ground, I don't live wrapped in cotton wall. I'll also eat food if I drop it....

Can't say I have any reason to be wearing a helmet when not on a moving motorcycle, Hell, I'd ride without it if I wasn't weary of being spotted by a kiwibiker and the resulting 2321 outraged threads about the dangerous wanker with no helmet who is ruining it for everyone.

**portokiwi** · 30th January 2009, 10:05

Originally Posted by Headbanger

I always take my helmet off at the servo, takes all of 3 seconds, and lets my ears and bald spot swing in the breeze for a few minutes. can't say I care about ditching it on the ground, I don't live wrapped in cotton wall. I'll also eat food if I drop it....

Can't say I have any reason to be wearing a helmet when not on a moving motorcycle, Hell, I'd ride without it if I wasn't weary of being spotted by a kiwibiker and the resulting 2321 outraged threads about the dangerous wanker with no helmet who is ruining it for everyone.

**slofox** · 30th January 2009, 10:24

Originally Posted by Swoop

I also keep the lid on when in the bottle shop. I have only been asked to remove it once while in there, and my reply of "do you have this same policy with burkah wearing people?" immediately shut the person up and got her thinking...

If you came into my bottle shop I would ask you to remove your helmet. Mostly because, by law, I have to gauge whether you are of age or not. So if I cannot judge your age I will not sell to you. The same applies to hoodies or any other head covering that obscures face to the extent that I cannot judge age.
I rarely get burkah wearers in since they are muslim and DO NOT DRINK BOOZE....hence, no problem there....but if one should come in, same rule would apply.
The law is very hard on people like me if we sell to minors. They also run "Controlled Purchase Operations" (= stings) where they send in underage persons to try and entrap us into selling. They can be very sneaky in how they go about this process so I have to be ever on my guard. It IS, after all, my livelihood and pays for the gas for the bike...no trade, no biking...
I also have a security camera installed. If I am held up by a loony I want video footage...partly for possible future identification (but also to get footage of me busting his/her arse with the piece of pipe I keep behind the counter.....(for posterity you unnerstand...

)).
So I hope you will see that a request to remove a helmet in a bottle store is a perfectly reasonable request....
As for the service stations? I use Gull in Hamilton - self serve - no people to deal with so no problem.......

**motodrummer** · 30th January 2009, 10:27

Hasnt happened to me for a while but once i was given a lecture by the police last year. The station had been robbed 2 days before by a dude in a helmet. The staff were still jumpy. ( the cop was filling up at the time, wasnt chasing me, honest.)

**slofox** · 30th January 2009, 10:41

Originally Posted by motodrummer

... wasnt chasing me, honest.)

A LIKELY story....

But yes, there is the robbery thing. Service station just up the road from my store got done over about three times in a coupla weeks...ended up closing down as a result. But no wonder they get suspicious of people with faces obscured...

**portokiwi** · 30th January 2009, 10:42

I got told off by a mufti cop in dark blue Hyondai....... I parked the cage at Glen Innes opp the police station and the prat of a policeman (big dark guy) stops in the middle of the road and tells me off for not stopping at a predestion crossing to let a lady cross.

The lady hadent even got to the crossing when I went past

I just smiled said sorry mr policeman and it wont happen again.
Why are some policeman prats like that. I allways stop when I see some one crossing even on the opp side of the road. Which this lady was.
I am sure stopping in the middle of the road isnt in the road code.
Sorry about that off topic

**sunhuntin** · 30th January 2009, 11:34

Originally Posted by michael

couldnt be arsed reading through all 5 pages so sorry if this was already mentioned. I was told quite some time ago that you should take it off because the fumes can knock you out. Eg: Fill up and fumes build up in helmet, get on bike and ride away and before ya know it you're waking up the f**k just happened. Any truth to this.
I always take mine off just because I kinda look like a islander and I'm young so I get enough bad looks anyway, dont need anymore.

never heard of anything like is, and i spoke to a LOT of riders during my time at bp. im picking there be more chance of fumes getting into the lid by placing it on the forecourt floor. any sitting petrol could easily soak into the padding. if i do take mine off, i only put it on the ground if im well away from any pumps and spilled fuel.

**bully** · 30th January 2009, 11:35

i leave mine on because i wana be in and out, cant be bothered taking it off.
even if there is a no helmet sticker on the door. i wont pre pay either beacause i dont know the amount it will take. never been asked to either in both cases.

**Mully** · 30th January 2009, 11:48

Originally Posted by michael

I was told quite some time ago that you should take it off because the fumes can knock you out. Eg: Fill up and fumes build up in helmet, get on bike and ride away and before ya know it you're waking up the f**k just happened. Any truth to this.

Unlikely. Petrol fumes are heavier than air - thus, they sink to the lowest point. I suppose it's possible that your lid could fill up with fumes and, if the bottom was sealed (whisper kit or similar) that prevent it all from falling out the bottom.

Of course, if you flip your visor up if you smell petrol (after leaving the station), it wouldn't be an issue anyway.