New boy racer legislation

**Tony** · 2nd February 2009, 15:07

Originally Posted by woza

Boy racers have been around for decades, you will never stop young males modifying cars and doing burn outs.

I belive that if the "Tony" rule says you can only have a 1350cc car and it's not allowed any engine modifications then that gives you the opportunity to seize the car and destroy it.

**twotyred** · 2nd February 2009, 15:18

simply a chance to grab even more power through public fear.
The po-lice have more than enough laws to use for lawbreakers,the whole idea of labelling a "group" with a gang-like name is to induce fear,it's a problem-reaction-solution situation.

welcome to the next step in the ever increasing police state

**Tony** · 2nd February 2009, 15:19

Originally Posted by DarkLord

Also agree with the crushing of the cars.

Correct me if I am wrong, but once the cars have been impounded, are they not just sold off again? so therefore what is to stop another boy racer shelling out his student loan or whatever on another racers car that was impounded? The car is off the road for a while, sure, but then it just ends up back on it again.

Under the "Tony" rule No. 1 they won't be able to purchase it.

Under the proposed "Tony" rule No.2 it's very hard to do drive crushed cars.

**Tony** · 2nd February 2009, 15:25

Originally Posted by woza

Boy racers have been around for decades, you will never stop young males modifying cars and doing burn outs.

Guys I am dead serious about the 'Tony' rules. (see original post in this thread for "Tony" laws.)

Under rule No.1 they won't be able to own modified cars and who wants to do and isn't going to be nearly so much fun doing burnouts in unmodified cars under 1350cc!

My idea is not to try and police and then punish boy racers after the fact but to get rid of them all together.

Remove the incentive by limiting them to communter cars.

And lets not create laws that are open to abuse and individual discretion. Let's have clear cut laws.

Please people let's have no more disagreement on my proposed law changes.

**Skyryder** · 2nd February 2009, 16:02

Originally Posted by idb

Typical though, nothing is done until a poor policeman is a little bit frightened!!!
What about all of the innocent citizens of that have been terrorised over the years and everyone has sat on their hands...bloody hypocrites!!!
Cops are pricks!!!

We need a new super hero that will protect us...someone with a past full of demons and who suffers flashbacks at inconvenient moments of danger but can no longer sit idly by and watch the criminal underworld force the good citizens to live in fear in their own homes.

He must have a cool rubber suit as well.

Condom Man. Security is his password.

Skyryder

**mikeey01** · 2nd February 2009, 16:18

Originally Posted by Tony

Learner drivers have a CC restriction

Tony I think u hit the nail on the head, every motorcyclist has to go through this, what and why is it so different with cars?

**The Stranger:Me** · 2nd February 2009, 16:21

Originally Posted by Tony

Please people let's have no more disagreement on my proposed law changes.

Yeah, come on guys, this is serious. We know the police monitor this site and are looking for our agreement prior to enacting the Tony laws.

**gixxer-king** · 2nd February 2009, 16:45

Originally Posted by mikeey01

Tony I think u hit the nail on the head, every motorcyclist has to go through this, what and why is it so different with cars?

um yea, and look at how sensible that is! A 250 2 smoker can take down most 400's and some 600's and its the same with cars. sorry to smack you with this one but most of the cars i see "acting up" are glanzas (1.2 or 1.3l) charades (660cc) those poo mitsi mx's (1.3 1.5 and 1.8l) a few lancer hatches 1.25l) and the other problem with that is the smaller the engine the lighter the car (just as with bikes 250cc no longer means gutless due to having next to no mass) so i think cc is a bullshit rule. as is no turbos ( i was declined insurance many years back for a mu A FURKING MU because oh wait it had a turbo charger.
What we need is a TOTAL lock down on:
cut springs as a number 1. i personally would buy the crusher to get these shit heaps off the road.
Next is loud mufflers. There is no need to hear your accord valve bouncing at 2am!
next are stupid wheel fitments. if fitting 22's to your mini is cool then as my friend morty would say "you need a fucking slap" (said in an indian accent)
next angled number plates (this originated in the USA as a form of Gays and Lesbians to find one another as of course it is frowned upon over there) so god knows why its meant to be "cool" over in NZ (either someone got the message wrong or we have a ton of out of closet 15-21yo males here)
crack down on these and the culture will die out very fast indeed.

**JMemonic** · 2nd February 2009, 16:45

Whilst the idea of a law that restricts learners to harsher restrictions is one possible solution to the problem and folks are saying support this its a great idea etc I will play devils advocate for a minute.

There are already plenty of laws on the books to use against these offenders, none of which are being headed, or for that matter used to the fullest in regard to the penalty's available under these laws.

We want less restrictions on the motorcycle laws, removal of the 70kph limit, increasing the max cc rating, it a little umm hypocritical to then turn around and demand that restrictions are placed on cars.

The larger portion of the voting public will be opposed to this as currently they only have to have one car that the kids can use when needed, what about those on learners in rural areas that may drive the 4 wheel drive or farm truck.

New laws are not what is needed, any new legislation will be a knee jerk reaction designed to satisfy the public but have no real consequence.

**McDuck** · 2nd February 2009, 16:53

Originally Posted by mikeey01

Tony I think u hit the nail on the head, every motorcyclist has to go through this, what and why is it so different with cars?

I got my licence in a 1300, got my full in it at 16 and a half.

I think the majority of boy racers are over 16 and a half.

**JMemonic** · 2nd February 2009, 16:57

Originally Posted by renegade master

good lord burnouts! the horrors!

As usual you display a total ignorance of the situation and take the slightest of notice of the larger issue.

Perhaps you feel it is ok to have you life ruined by lack of sleep, for both you and your family, your property trashed with people urinating on you garden, to find excrement on your lawns, and should you have the audacity to complain or attempt to suggest that perhaps consideration towards sleep and your sanity would be nice you are subjected to stand over tactics with threats of personal harm to yourself and your family including children not limited to but including fire-bombing you home, physical harm, even in one case that I know of gang rape.

I gather from you horror at Police attending burnouts on public streets you approve of the attack.

You may go ahead and red rep me again but I care not, you sir are a loser of exemplary character.

**mark247** · 2nd February 2009, 17:06

Police rules as they are for burnouts etc are harsh enough as it is, IF they use them. I did a 3 second hollywood in my car a while back and had it impounded for 28days and nearly lost my licence for 6 months ( lawyers are awesome ), let alone the impoundment fee etc.

If the police want to fuck someone over ( and rightly so in those chch muppets cases ) they can quite easily, there is no reason why a boyracer in chch couldnt get sustained loss of traction, speeding, dangerous driving etc etc and lose there car and licence for a good while. If you get done for 2 charges of sustained loss of traction in the same 4 years ( i think its that, might even be 7 ) the courts have the right to sell your car.

On the other hand, attacking a single cop is absolutely rediculous, when the tazers come out I'm sure that will sort them out a bit. But when it's 300 on 1, what can they do? Changing the laws is going to do nothing, what they need is more cops, and some guns.

**Molly** · 2nd February 2009, 17:14

Tonight's news shows some complete cock of a boy racer pouring diesel on the road. This s**t just ****s me off. I hope the police get the legislation they need.

In my experience the NZ police are pretty fair (though I appreciate your experience may differ). The cop that followed-up / liaised after my accident was bloody good and the two that chatted to me at a local cafe recently actually warned me about a nearby anti-speeding focus. If you're out there just taking the piss you deserve all you get.

**mark247** · 2nd February 2009, 17:24

Originally Posted by Molly

Tonight's news shows some complete cock of a boy racer pouring diesel on the road. This s**t just ****s me off. I hope the police get the legislation they need.

In my experience the NZ police are pretty fair (though I appreciate your experience may differ). The cop that followed-up / liaised after my accident was bloody good and the two that chatted to me at a local cafe recently actually warned me about a nearby anti-speeding focus. If you're out there just taking the piss you deserve all you get.

You get what you deserve i agree. And if i remember correctly the punishment for pouring diesel on a public road can be pretty big.

**The Pastor** · 2nd February 2009, 17:36

Originally Posted by JMemonic

As usual you display a total ignorance of the situation and take the slightest of notice of the larger issue.

Perhaps you feel it is ok to have you life ruined by lack of sleep, for both you and your family, your property trashed with people urinating on you garden, to find excrement on your lawns, and should you have the audacity to complain or attempt to suggest that perhaps consideration towards sleep and your sanity would be nice you are subjected to stand over tactics with threats of personal harm to yourself and your family including children not limited to but including fire-bombing you home, physical harm, even in one case that I know of gang rape.

I gather from you horror at Police attending burnouts on public streets you approve of the attack.

You may go ahead and red rep me again but I care not, you sir are a loser of exemplary character.

man why you always harshing on my buzz man