Embarrassed

[Squid]

R master.
Do you have a bike? Ever crashed? Helmets are good as is protective gear.
Ever driven a car? In the event of a spin out or over the bank or whatever seatbelts are also good.

If I saw someone riding whout gear and I had the chance to talk to them Id ask them what the hell they where doing. If you cant afford gear you cant afford to ride sorry no excuse.

Good on you Snuffles

[The Pastor]

R master.
Do you have a bike? Ever crashed? Helmets are good as is protective gear.
Ever driven a car? In the event of a spin out or over the bank or whatever seatbelts are also good.

If I saw someone riding whout gear and I had the chance to talk to them Id ask them what the hell they where doing. If you cant afford gear you cant afford to ride sorry no excuse.

Good on you Snuffles

yeah ive ridden and yes ive crashed more than once, in both bikes and cars at all speeds 100k,50k and inbetween.

I wear atgatt (i wear jeans on the commute to work tho), and i always tell people to do the same. but it is MY choice to wear atgatt as it is the riders choice not to.

im sick of the government telling people what to do when the people are MORE than capeable of doing this themselfs.

[Pascal]

I wear atgatt (i wear jeans on the commute to work tho), and i always tell people to do the same. but it is MY choice to wear atgatt as it is the riders choice not to.

im sick of the government telling people what to do when the people are MORE than capeable of doing this themselfs.

Ah, I have misunderstood the point you were making. I was under the impression you were speaking out against riders talking to other riders about lack of safety gear.

I definately do not want to the government involved in this. The less involvement they have in our lives the better!

[Ixion]

Remember, it's not ATGATT if it's not fluoro.

Compulsory hi-vis for everyone .

After all , why should my ACC premiums go up because other people are too stupid to make themselves visible ?

What? You don't agree? But I thought you approved of telling other people what to do, in the interests of safety?

EDIT: Not you as in you, you as in the other you

[Squid]

.......im sick of the government telling people what to do when the people are MORE than capeable of doing this themselfs.

Hear hear! Yeah fair enough man.

Fluros might help your visabilty but it'd be much much safer to get the ppl who cant see so well off the roads.... and if you all tucked into the tank on the gixxa (or blade or kwaka or whatever you ride) you aint guna be seeing a whole lot of fluro anyways.
Plus one feels like a right dick wearing a fluro on the bike.

[Ixion]

Ah. I see. So safety apparel should only be worn (or only be compulsory?) if it doesn't make you feel like a dick.

Now, I remember when I was young, to shut my mother up sometimes I had to wear a crash helmet. And everyone said that I looked like a dick for wearing it. Cos helmets do make you look like a dick. And no-one wore them, cos they didn't want to look like dicks. So, following your precept, I can be excused not wearing a helmet?

[SARGE]

would be a good skill to have alright

i'd never leave home

[Squid]

Ah. I see. So safety apparel should only be worn (or only be compulsory?) if it doesn't make you feel like a dick.

Now, I remember when I was young, to shut my mother up sometimes I had to wear a crash helmet. And everyone said that I looked like a dick for wearing it. Cos helmets do make you look like a dick. And no-one wore them, cos they didn't want to look like dicks. So, following your precept, I can be excused not wearing a helmet?

Didnt mean to bring your mother into this sorry dude.
If a fluro is going to protect me if I hit a tree or wall or cheesecutter please let me know.
I like the alignment of my skeleton in relation to the flesh surrounding it!

[SARGE]

euuw... Just gets gorier and gorier as you scoll down! The mangled remnants of body parts near the end, wow...

yea.. But the last guy was wearing leathers and boots and a helmet and gloves and 3 layers of bubble wrap..

No way in hell you'll ever be hurt in full gear.. I call 'shopped..

[FJRider]

Would be a good skill to have alright

ONLY if you're gay...

[Gubb]

Fuck's Sake.

Do you tell every fatty you see to put down the coke, chips and pies when you see them eating because they are increasing your tax dollarsgoing towards health? Or every smoker that they need to quit because your hard earned tax dollars are being spent on cancer treatments? Or anyone over-indulging in alcohol.

I could go on, but if you're not prepared to do the same for everyone else involved with the same principle, and they are complying with the law, keep it to yourself, feel free to think whatever the fuck you want, but I don't need to hear it again.

Also, I suggest a Pyre for your "black sheep".

[Patrick]

Seat belts and helmets and gear do not effect others

Wrong. It does. Why should I have to pick up pieces of brain from the road surface, because one chooses not to wear a helmet? Why should I have to tell the parents their kid aint coming home, ever, because they didn't wear a seatbelt? Why should the fireys and ambos deal with easily avoided shit like that...? It does affect others.....

The argument that ' why should i have to pay for this idiots actions' is flawed in the sense that with the tickets for not having the gear etc acc levies will not come down. Its that simple.

Says who? It hasn't been tried.....

If you look at the statistics of fatal motorcyclist accidents before and after they made helmets compulsory you'd be surprised at the rise in fatal accidents.

Which corresponds with the much more higher rise on vehicles on roads, and the feeble claims of "I didn't see them..." coz they were looking for cars instead....

[piston broke]

well, i'm guilty of speaking out.
a couple of weeks ago i had a go at my old man for riding to work wearing jandles, overalls and helmet.
when asked why,he reckons it takes too long to put on the cordura's, boots and gloves for a 5k ride each way twice a day.
waddaya do?after all he is mid 60's.
dunno if he has changed his idea's.his choice.

[Patrick]

Remember, it's not ATGATT if it's not fluoro.

Compulsory hi-vis for everyone .

After all , why should my ACC premiums go up because other people are too stupid to make themselves visible ?

What? You don't agree? But I thought you approved of telling other people what to do, in the interests of safety?

EDIT: Not you as in you, you as in the other you

Fairy snuff... but if they can't see my high beam on, thery aint gonna see any day glow jacket behind that.....

[CookMySock]

If it was me I would tell them... then if something happened at least you could say they were warned and not feel as guilty if you had not warned them of the dangers

see, its always the person who didn't warn thems fault, not their own.

Steve