Why is there a negative attitude on KB towards MCs?

[FJRider]

no, too bad were not looking for any new people

Was the "club" membership numbers capped before the combined total IQ reached double figures... ???

[FJRider]

you should come to one of our "meetings"

Perhaps she's not into GAY bars...

[Laxi]

Perhaps she's not into GAY bars...

pssst carver, i think they're onto your "lifestyle"

[MarkH]

we have had a girl on the block before....

Experimenting? Trying to deny who you are?

Tell me, is it true that the most common question for a new initiate to the Moron Few is: "If I don't participate in the butt seks and just watch and jerk off, then I'm not really gay - right? . . . right?"

[rosie631]

you should come to one of our "meetings"

Oh, Carver. You are everything i aspire to. i would love to come to one of your 'meetings'. Unfortunately, I'm not a male and I'm not gay. Does that matter?

[RiderInBlack]

Can't be fart arsed wading through all the post here, so here my two pence anyway:
I have ridden with Motor Cycle (MC) Clubs before and still do when the mood fits. I don't on the other hand ride with Motor Cycle Gangs and don't condone they activities. I'm been a member of the BOP CC MC and am a member of the Ulysses MC. Some could even define KB as being a MC of sorts. I have ridden with ex-Motor Cycle Gangs members, some of them are top Blokes now, having left the gang way of life well behind them.
So as far as I am concerned, in no way is NZ does MC Clubs = MC Gangs. If a MC has a symbol they wear that connects them to belong to that Club, that does not make that emblem a "Gang Patch" or the wearer a "Gang Member". KB has one (as does the Ulysses), does that make those wearing it "Gang Members"?
If those on here that have a problem with MC's because they can't work out the difference between MC's and Gangs, I feel really sorry for them.

[sunhuntin]

You don't. The clever drug lords create or adopt the "MC" and their image to do their work/intimidation for them. More often than not they also let their underlings take their beatings or do their jail time.

I think it actually stands for 'Mug Club'

correct. while i was in canada, i lived with a member of a local MC, which was simply called "the brotherhood" they numbered around 70 members and had been around since the 70s, with the founding members still active. during the time i was there, the young gun members were trying to encourage the idea of 'patching over' to the hells angels, which was the biggest club in the province. the angels were also trying to force a patch over. they used a club called redline for their wheeling and dealing, and were trying to do the same with the brotherhood. my then partner removed his colors and walked out of at least one meeting before the young guns backed down and so did the angels. i know for a while it ran very close to happening, but, had it gone through, a large number of brotherhood seniors would have walked out.

but, in saying that, my time amongst members of those 3 clubs and a few others was some of the best. they threw awesome parties, bought and sold drugs amongst themselves, and yet never even offered me a sniff or forced it on me. but, had i wanted to sample, it would have been there for the taking. i also knew that if i got rip roaring drunk and collapsed, id be shoved in a tent somewhere and left to sleep it off. i wouldnt trust any local guys to do that. the end result is i dont class local hells as a gang. sure, i dont trust them, but i dont fear them either.

[Elysium]

Oh, Carver. You are everything i aspire to. i would love to come to one of your 'meetings'. Unfortunately, I'm not a male and I'm not gay. Does that matter?

Plus you're required to supply your own gear.
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[carver]

Knock knock.
Mr Carver: Who's there?
... : It's me, Genie.
Mr Carver: Genie who?
Genie : Genie of the Lamp.
*Opened the door*
Mr Carver: Oh hi Genie, what're you doing here?
Genie: *Doof* *Smack carver in the head with his lamp.
...
Carver wakes up in his chair in front of the computer with his hand still on his

She said dream on.
You score *3 lines there Carver. Now go become a movie star.

ok, il do my best!

you do realise she's not transexual dont you carver?

were not bothered, backdoor bandits strike again

Was the "club" membership numbers capped before the combined total IQ reached double figures... ???

before it got over triple figures.
god gave us our IQ

Perhaps she's not into GAY bars...

nothing wrong with gay bars, not many desperate hetro guys in there!

pssst carver, i think they're onto your "lifestyle"

you should give the lifestyle a go, il show ya how its done

Experimenting? Trying to deny who you are?

Tell me, is it true that the most common question for a new initiate to the Moron Few is: "If I don't participate in the butt seks and just watch and jerk off, then I'm not really gay - right? . . . right?"

im not gay but the guy i fucked was!
crazy steve resisted initiation, and didnt get in

Oh, Carver. You are everything i aspire to. i would love to come to one of your 'meetings'. Unfortunately, I'm not a male and I'm not gay. Does that matter?

nope, we can "make do"

[The Lone Rider]

I do know of MC's in NZ that are a bunch of guys/gals that enjoy the riding and all that comes as part of it. If anyone is on here who is part of such club, please feel free to advertise on this thread!

I'd be one.

We all have our moments of making mistakes, even in MCs. But not once have I not been grateful that those in my MC who have made a genuine commitment are people who have continually helped me fix my bike, rescued me when I've broken down, bought me drinks, checked up on me when they knew about some family crises... etc... and I'd try to do the same for them with what I'm able to (usually sorting computer stuff for them or finding out event info). And on top of that there are people who don't want to be "members" as such but come out riding and just as much a part of the networking and fun.

Some are not always committed though. That's were I personally make a separation between a MC and an SC. A lot of the social clubs are really just call outs, everyone show up and have fun, then leaves. There is no networking where everyone could call on other members to help them out whenever wherever.

That's not to insult people who just ride with a few friends and are tight, and help each other out all the time. There's heaps out there of 2, 3, 4, 8 or more people who are strictly friends with no designation other than "This is my mate Bill..." but might as well be of the same flesh and blood.

Canterbury's PMC, PDFMC have great people and always a pleasure to run into them - some I know personally and others I talk to because I recognize their patch. Likewise, I've had people come and chat and buy me drinks as they recognize my patch.

One thing about a lot of MC though is that you don't know what they are like until you hang out with them. Talk with them. Buy them (cough cough.. me.. cough cough) a drink.

Likewise, can't assume seeing someone wearing a KB shirt is someone that isn't going to be a complete prick to you.

Make a MC which is all about the individual.

Sacred Bones MC. Look them up.



RE: Tribesmen and MM

While this is all second hand information...

An American temp at my job, who was very involved partying with all sorts of MC in the states, and some in NZ now that he's here.. swears by the Tribesmen being great people who would not do anything to anyone unless provoked and that they just want to have fun amongst themselves. He also said he had partied with a very southern known MC.. and was not impressed with what I suppose you could call their "raping" policy.

On top of that - and will be writing this very vaguely - a guy I have known for 3 years have had dealings of MM. He says where he comes from, a man approached MM (I suppose an associate?) chapter president and asked if he could start MM SC (motorcycle social club). The pres said it was ok but they a are not allowed to wear back patches, and patched MM members are to be allowed to be SC members.. and something about the president also saying he was to be on the committee for the SC.

Just stories I've been told. I have no reason to think the stories are lies or very embellished. I've know both those guys fairly well. I'm also not denying the fact both stories may be complete bull.

[Paul in NZ]

Its a sad fact that most MC's won't tolerate my lifestyle.... Elitists....

[bikejam2]

I think the attitudes can be blamed on the media, I mean when was the last time you heard of a club doing some type of good in the news, (apart from the boobs on bikes parade..lol) also most people feel intimidated to get to know these guys so all they have to go on is what's being reported by the media, and wot they see in movies... There could be and probably are more reasons but I say it comes down to media and ignorance.

[Timber020]

poor literacy skills aye. ya dont know me so G F Y S.

Just keep to the shallow end and dont get to excited, get some of your mates to hold your hand if you feel like to many people here dont agree with you. You will be fine, have a nice day.

[98tls]

I think the attitudes can be blamed on the media, I mean when was the last time you heard of a club doing some type of good in the news, (apart from the boobs on bikes parade..lol) also most people feel intimidated to get to know these guys so all they have to go on is what's being reported by the media, and wot they see in movies... There could be and probably are more reasons but I say it comes down to media and ignorance.

Fuck the media and as for ignorance,possibly but i just see no reason to get to know someone whos stupid enough to wear a jacket with Red Devil on the back of it..seriously,Red DevilHenchmen/Lost Breed etc i can live with but Red Devil

[rosie631]

Fuck the media and as for ignorance,possibly but i just see no reason to get to know someone whos stupid enough to wear a jacket with Red Devil on the back of it..seriously,Red DevilHenchmen/Lost Breed etc i can live with but Red Devil

Totally agree. Red Devils - they sound like cartoon characters. Come on guys, surely one of you had a big enough IQ to come up with something better.