L plates - which offence is worse?

[mazz1972]

Big McJim that would be a hoot, I'll look out for you on the news.

Bloody riduculous rule this 70kmph for all the reasons you've all gone into.

This curfew is pathethic too. I've only had my learners for a month or so, so ok I'm not yet be an experienced rider, but at my age I sure as hell don't need to be told what time to be home. I've been driving for 20 odd years and suddenly I have to be home by 10pm? It surely can't be for safety reasons. In my opinion that rule shouldn't apply to over 25's at least.

*Sigh, shake of the head and roll of the eyes*

[Jeaves]

The powers that be decided they didn't want learners on the motorway but didn't have the common decency to front up and say "Motorway out of bounds on a Learner Licence" Instead they came up with another half arsed law that is more dangerous than safe.
I say we get maybe 300 Learner Riders with L Plates on the motorway and drive from Greenlane to Takapuna and back again continuously for a day at 70kph to prove a point.

hahaha , one way of proving a point!

...although you wouldnt catch me at the back with a few thousand pissed off commuters

[McJim]

hahaha , one way of proving a point!

...although you wouldnt catch me at the back with a few thousand pissed off commuters

Easily sorted - we get 4 cage drivers that are on our side to act as the buffer zone behind us.

[judecatmad]

Ooooh MY GOD we have someone with a brain cell ....... lol

You hit the nail on the head. If you turned to me and said "but constanoon i was just traveling at the same speed as the cars cause it would be dangerous to do 70km" i'd give you a $400 fine and tell you to get OFF the m/way.

Cause as stated the limit is there so you don't use the m/ways hence when you do your restricted test there's no open road riding.

Bit tricky if you live on the North Shore and work in the City though.....

I used to travel over the bridge every day to Newmarket and I started off trying to do 70kph like a good girl, but after...ooh...the first day, I decided that I'd rather be pulled over for breach of licence restrictions than be road jam.

If the rules are intended to keep L-plates off the motorways, then the rules should state that clearly and not be all woofty and vague. Having said that, to make such a rule, you'd have to have a viable alternative route, surely?

[Dodger]

Having said that, to make such a rule, you'd have to have a viable alternative route, surely?

Hmm Lower hutt to Wellington could get very tricky.

All going well I get my bike this weekend, and there's no way in hell I'm doing 70kph with 100-120kph cages on the same road. "I choose life"

Not a big fan of the 10pm rule, I'm 30 years old and have to be home by 10?
Gee, guess I could always go home at 10pm, and jump on the 50cc scooter, with a pillion no less and continue riding. sigh

[judecatmad]

Hmm Lower hutt to Wellington could get very tricky.

LOL, indeedy - about as tricky as UH to Wellington!

I was actually referring to those poor souls stuck with either the Auckland Harbour Bridge or having to go all the way around via Upper Harbour Highway....the emphasis was on the 'viable' part of the alternate route

[Mole_C]

Ill join your rally McJim, i feel much safer going at 100 with the flow of traffic rather than looking in my mirrors all the time at the assholes in their SUVs trying to slowly run me over

[WarlockNZ]

You all seem to be missing the fact that the the 70K limit has been in place since the open road limit (for everyone) was 80K .. this is an old law that hasn't been updated.

There are petition sheets out there if you want to sign .. i'll even send you one if you want.

I for one don't wear an L plate (yes, hello Mr Plod), i did, for about a week .. and the number of close calls i had made me snap it over my knee and say fuck that for a game of soldiers.

I go with the flow of traffic and being an old bugger (oh the shame) i have no problem with it, dear god, i've been driving since i was 15.

[WarlockNZ]

Does anyone know if there any groups actively petitioning for the 70kmph restriction to be lifted? If so I would like to add my support!

Why yes ... yes there is ... i'm gathering a petition at the moment ... would you like a copy of the sign up sheet??

[Street Gerbil]

L-plate - no problem.
10pm curfew - hmmm - too lazy to ask for an exception but probably would have got one - I often work late.
70kph - got to go. Wouldn't object to 90kph ceiling though. After all, a ridiculously looking L-plate and a highly uncomfortable and dangerous speed limit (I intentionally do not include displacement, since as some folks noted before certain 250 ccs can be pretty wild) are major incentives to move on, cough up some cash for the government, and get a restricted license.

Having said that if someone is up to protest ride @ 70kph sharp I am more than willing to participate either on a bike or on a buffering cage (I've got a two seater minivan with enough room at the back to carry refreshments for approx. 100 riders

[McJim]

Why yes ... yes there is ... i'm gathering a petition at the moment ... would you like a copy of the sign up sheet??

You realise of course that should the petition be successful the likely outcome is the abolition of the 70kph rule replaced with the rule that no-one with a Learner Licence...cage or bike...be allowed on Motorway class roads?

I have realised now that I use the motorway daily...with an L plate on..that the Police do not take interest in the fact that I go with the traffic flow..I had fears that I would be paying $400 every time I tried to escape the jaws of the SUV 3 inches from my tail..the Police seem to be sensible in terms of enforcement. Maybe it's like one of them pustules on your arse. If you don't prod at it - it gets better.

[Ixion]

I am inclined to concur. it is a stupid rule, but sometimes it is best to let sleeping dogs lie. Otherwise, you wake them up, and they jump up all over you and get mud on your clothes and slobber in your face and breath foul bad breath over you and try to hump your leg and then whine and bark when you try to leave. . So if it's like that with dogs, just imagine how bad it would be waking up the Minister of Transport. Do y' REALLY want her humping your leg?

[The Big J]

Having said that if someone is up to protest ride @ 70kph sharp I am more than willing to participate either on a bike or on a buffering cage (I've got a two seater minivan with enough room at the back to carry refreshments for approx. 100 riders

Ha, at 70 you could pass a few beers around during the protest! Lid up.