To All State Hway 16 Cops.......

[SwanTiger]

Condolensces.

[kiwifruit]

My condolensces to your family
R.I.P

[spudchucka]

rubbish they are more likely to cross the centre line after entering a corner too hot and be on the wrong side on the exit........... where you cant see them as they have gone by you laser sights

Not rubbish! By being near the end of the straights, slowing people down, modifying their behaviour, they can prevent drivers from entering corners too hot and thus avoid crossing the centre line anywhere during the cornering manoeuvre.

[spudchucka]

huh? only on a left bender, on a right bender if you overcook on corner entry you go off into the shrubbery on the LEFT side of the road.

like Lou said, if you majorly fuck up you might cross the centre line on corner EXIT, but you have to really work at it on corner entry.

PS please dont ask how I know this. I just know, OK, leave it at that.

a high probability that a speeding driver might cross the centre line as they enter a bend and take out oncoming traffic or leave the road side and splatter themselves and their passengers into oblivion on a nearby tree or power pole.

Modified for your benefit, same logic applies I'm afraid.

[cowpoos]

My sympathies granma.

Speedie, you're talking crap. I've never been put at risk by speeders on 16. I definitely have been put at risk by cretinous cagers who cross the centreline.
And where do you see cops?
At the end of straights where there's easy pickings.

Condolences. I am getting a bit sick of foreigners who obviously have no concept of how to drive on our roads. There seems to be an influx of cars around the Waikato with drivers with their heads and faces covered who obviously can't see or hear F##K all !!!!!

a high probability that a speeding driver might cross the centre line as they enter a bend and take out oncoming traffic.

rubbish they are more likely to cross the centre line after entering a corner too hot and be on the wrong side on the exit........... where you cant see them as they have gone by you laser sights

a guy I know when first riding in the US had the same problem in reverse. pulled out the wrong way into a 4 lane highway. Doh *headsmack*

He was lucky, just scared himself shitless. he did go and buy a reflective arrow and stuck above the speedo, pointing right, so every time he glanced down he was reminded......

not a bad idea I thought. wonder how the bike hire companies here do it?

huh? only on a left bender, on a right bender if you overcook on corner entry you go off into the shrubbery on the LEFT side of the road.

like Lou said, if you majorly fuck up you might cross the centre line on corner EXIT, but you have to really work at it on corner entry.

PS please dont ask how I know this. I just know, OK, leave it at that.

Not rubbish! By being near the end of the straights, slowing people down, modifying their behaviour, they can prevent drivers from entering corners too hot and thus avoid crossing the centre line anywhere during the cornering manoeuvre.

Modified for your benefit, same logic applies I'm afraid.

not the place for this discussion guys.....be good if a mod removed these posts.....

[Ixion]

Modified for your benefit, same logic applies I'm afraid.

No it doesn't. Or, it's not logic.

Would only be valid if EVERY corner could be taken by ANY driver at 100kph . And NO corner could be taken by ANY driver at > 100kph.

The cop lurks at the end of the straight "to slow the drivers down so they don't crash on the corner" know that the corner, y'say ? But that will only slow drivers down to 100kph. And drivers at < 100kph won't slow at all (cos they're legal). So what happens when they get to the corner. The one that Percy Plonker can only get round at 70kph. And he's doing 100 kph? He crashs , that's what. Despite the cop sitting at the end of the straight.

C'on Mr Spudchucka, we're all big boys and girls . We all know perfectly well why the cop is sitting at the end of the straight. And it's nothing to do with slowing people down for the corner!

[spudchucka]

not the place for this discussion guys.....

Why not? The original post was more about what the police do or don't do on St Hwy 16 than it was about anyones dead relative.

[spudchucka]

C'on Mr Spudchucka, we're all big boys and girls . We all know perfectly well why the cop is sitting at the end of the straight. And it's nothing to do with slowing people down for the corner!

Its an alternative opinion, doesn't make it wrong, doesn't make yours right either.

Bottom line is that the police are charged with crime and crash reduction. All road policing activities are intended to modify driver behaviour because thats what causes crashes. If there were no monetary penalties associated with traffic offences police wouldn't be doing anything different to what they are now.

The NZ public has the biggest control over how police deploy resources by modifying their own behaviour to the point that such policing activities aren't required.

[scumdog]

C'on Mr Spudchucka, we're all big boys and girls . We all know perfectly well why the cop is sitting at the end of the straight. And it's nothing to do with slowing people down for the corner!

If EVERYBODY knows theres a cop at the end of each straight then would that 'knowledge' not tend to reduce the chance of a rider/driver 'overcooking' the corner and binning?

Never had that worry (cops or binning) myself 'cos I ain't that paranoid and I don't ride too fast.

[Squeak the Rat]

Condolences Granma2, that really does suck.

Bottom line is that the police are charged with crime and crash reduction. All road policing activities are intended to modify driver behaviour because thats what causes crashes. If there were no monetary penalties associated with traffic offences police wouldn't be doing anything different to what they are now.

The NZ public has the biggest control over how police deploy resources by modifying their own behaviour to the point that such policing activities aren't required.

The only traffic offences really being targeted are speed.

Driver behaviour is being modified, people are slowing down to the speed limit or below which they are told is safe, but in general peoples driving skills are getting worse by the day. Police very rarely target bad driving, only fast driving. Bad drivers are only pulled over when the opportunity arises.

[terbang]

Bottom line is that the police are charged with crime and crash reduction.

Umm thats not what the leaked memos a while back said..!

[spudchucka]

The only traffic offences really being targeted are speed.

Wrong.

In 2001 officer issued speeding offences & infringements totalled 17.9% of all recorded offences for that year.

In 2002 it was 22.7%.

Quite stagering though is the amount of speed camera fines issued in both years, 485669 in 2001 & 450462 in 2001.

Taking those figures into account moves the percentage of speeding offences recorded to 57.9% in 2001 and 57.8% in 2002. Thats a lot but certainly not the only traffic offence targeted.

Others opinions will differ but I won't count the speed camera offences because if you are getting nabbed by those things you are dumb fuck and shouldn't be allowed to be in control of a motor vehicle.

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[McJim]

My thoughts are with the family and friends he left behind.

RIP.

[Squeak the Rat]

Wrong.
Others opinions will differ but I won't count the speed camera offences because if you are getting nabbed by those things you are dumb fuck and shouldn't be allowed to be in control of a motor vehicle.

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Agreed, anyone who doesn't see a van on the side of the road deserves to get fined.

But you don't get my point. Cops target speed. They go out looking for speeders. All the other fines (excuding some of the drink driving) would be result of a cop happening upon an offence, or charging a driver after an accident. Cops do not proactively target bad drivers.



I think we need to bear in mind this thread may have been about cops on SH16, but was posted by some one who has just lost a family member and out of respect maybe this discussion should continue elsewhere.....

[marty]

Cops do not proactively target bad drivers.
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obviously all the police operations you've been on have formed this opinion.