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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Dover View Post
    So did they set the helicopter down and leave the engines running "just" so that PC Piggie could go and give the guy a telling off?

    What a fuckin poof, if some stranger flicks me the bird I couldn't care less. I have to go to schools thru my job but am I going to go griping to the teacher if some little coon flicks me the pipes? I doubt it. I'll probably just go home and cry because he was just so mean and hurtful.

    Or I might call the pigs and have him get a good ticking off.

    Tossers. I hope his tazer goes off in his pocket and he cums in his piggie print jocks.

    Edit: and it definitely wasn't WINJA. Feeding him at Mikano would cost a fortune.
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    Quote Originally Posted by John Banks View Post
    There is quite a difference in "What you would expect to happen" as to "What will happen".
    Yes. Just another reason why I don't give the

    Actualy when some driver or ped pissed me off When I was driving busses I use to pucker up my lips and give them a kiss. Has the same effect but the shock value slows down there response time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lou Girardin View Post
    Do you not think it would be common courtesy to ask management?
    It is private property after all.
    Keep in mind that this was just a fishing expedition as well.
    If I had the authority I would have told them to leave, but I'm just a mushroom.
    ``Public place'' means a place that, at any material time, is open to or is being used by the public, whether free or on payment of a charge, and whether any owner or occupier of the place is lawfully entitled to exclude or eject any person from that place; and includes any aircraft, hovercraft, ship or ferry or other vessel, train, or vehicle carrying or available to carry passengers for reward:
    Sound familiar, you work in a public place sunshine, anyone, including the filth, has a common law right to enter your place of business.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scumdog View Post
    Ah get over it you lot!!

    Somebody 'flips me the bird'?

    I flip it back.

    You know what? A majority say "you're a cop, you can't do that"

    "Bad luck, I just did"
    There are time when you make me laugh. This is one of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lou Girardin View Post
    If case law says telling a cop to fuck off isn't offensive, you'd be pushing shit uphill to get home on it for giving the finger.
    Do they do sensitivity testing as part of recruitment now too.
    Saying 'fuck off' in a restaurant COULD be offensive to some members of public nearby (as opposed to the pig it was directed at), who's to say 'flipping the bird' is not going to be offensive too?
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    I think the test though is not whether someone COULD find it offensive. There are people who can find almost anything offensive. Some very religious types (Christian or muslim) might find a chick in a bikini offensive. Quite a few people found the boobs on bikes display of tits offensive.

    Its whether, (a) in all the circumstances, the average reasonable person would find it offensive AND (b) did anyone who saw it find it offensive. So there has to be someone who actually WAS offended, and the someone has to be more that a hypersensitive prude.

    Which test it seems unlikely the instance exemplified would meet
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    Quote Originally Posted by spudchucka View Post
    Sound familiar, you work in a public place sunshine, anyone, including the filth, has a common law right to enter your place of business.
    To pursue normal business in that place. Not Police state interrogation of our customers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scumdog View Post
    Saying 'fuck off' in a restaurant COULD be offensive to some members of public nearby (as opposed to the pig it was directed at), who's to say 'flipping the bird' is not going to be offensive too?
    The courts?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lou Girardin View Post
    If case law says telling a cop to fuck off isn't offensive, you'd be pushing shit uphill to get home on it for giving the finger.
    Do they do sensitivity testing as part of recruitment now too.
    Did you actually bother to do any research at all before spouting off about case law?

    Case law has only stated that in a one on one situation with no-one else present its not 'offensive behaviour' to swear at or pull the fingers at a cop. However you can be arrested and are likely to be convicted of offensive behaviour for pulling the fingers or swearing at cops in a public situation where other people are present and likely to be offended by it. Its all about time, place and circumstance.

    Go do some reading.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lou Girardin View Post
    To pursue normal business in that place. Not Police state interrogation of our customers.
    Yeah Lou but you know the natural progression of things: If you have shit and crap around then there's a good liklihood pigs won't be far behind.


    Even works when i'm out hunting!

    You accept shit- ergo you accept pigs
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    Quote Originally Posted by Indoo View Post
    Did you actually bother to do any research at all before spouting off about case law?

    Case law has only stated that in a one on one situation with no-one else present its not 'offensive behaviour' to swear at or pull the fingers at a cop. However you can be arrested and are likely to be convicted of offensive behaviour for pulling the fingers or swearing at cops in a public situation where other people are present and likely to be offended by it. Its all about time, place and circumstance.

    Go do some reading.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Indoo View Post
    Did you actually bother to do any research at all before spouting off about case law?

    Case law has only stated that in a one on one situation with no-one else present its not 'offensive behaviour' to swear at or pull the fingers at a cop. However you can be arrested and are likely to be convicted of offensive behaviour for pulling the fingers or swearing at cops in a public situation where other people are present and likely to be offended by it. Its all about time, place and circumstance.

    Go do some reading.
    I take it then that you would arrest anyone that was swearing or using obscene gestures in public? No matter who they were directed at? Because it would obviously be invidious to have one law for police and another for everyone else.

    And as swearing and obscene gestures are hardly rare, I presume that you, and all your collegues have made many such arrests ?

    I await with interest the response of the police the next time boi-racer flips me the bird and I report him and ask for him to be arrested.
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    does anyone else think it is great we live in a country that still reports on incidents such as this? Rather than all that news space taken up by murders shootings and the like? Imagine this story in the states, any european country, the UK. People would say its a slow news day.
    The real mystery is how come that fat bastard Hurley has never lost any weight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ixion View Post
    I take it then that you would arrest anyone that was swearing or using obscene gestures in public? No matter who they were directed at? Because it would obviously be invidious to have one law for police and another for everyone else.

    And as swearing and obscene gestures are hardly rare, I presume that you, and all your collegues have made many such arrests ?
    It depends on the time, place and circumstance and the type of behaviour as to whether an arrest is warranted, if its just minor and only pissing a few people off you would usually just tell them to pull their heads in.

    If you think that cops only arrest people for offensive/disorderly behaviour if its directed at them then you couldn't be more wrong. If you don't believe me go down to the courts on a Monday morning and you will see that most arrests for those charges involve angry drunks on a fri/sat night who are being aggresive, abusive and trying to pick fights with other people who are just out for a good time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Indoo View Post
    If you don't believe me go down to the courts on a Monday morning and you will see that most arrests for those charges involve angry drunks on a fri/sat night who are being aggresive, abusive and trying to pick fights with other people who are just out for a good time.
    A little bit different to flicking the pipes at a flying pig!

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