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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitcher View Post
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    A helmet wear always you should. Save your life it one day may, Luke! (Oh, no! Not another Star Wars fan!)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loose Nut View Post
    Just like a condom really.
    What? Ambos clean up the mess if you don't wear one? I don't think so...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitcher View Post
    What? Ambos clean up the mess if you don't wear one? I don't think so...
    Okay maybe the fireman hoses it off. My point is it's not pre-bagged.

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    I am disturbed about your post-coital association with members of the emergency services. Deeply.
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    Quote Originally Posted by padre View Post

    A helmet, it should be a choice. My head after all isn't it. Don't knock it.
    I bet you'd still want everyone else to pick up the medical bills for you no doubt for when you crash?

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    By the same logic that says helmets must be compulsory for all, becaus ethey may, perhaps, prevent injury in a few cases, why is it not legally mandatory for everyone to wear condoms when having sex, because they may, perhaps, prevent infection in a few cases.

    After all everyone else picks up the medical bills for you for when you catch an STD
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil Vincent
    The manufacturers go to a lot of trouble to find out what the average rider prefers, because the maker who guesses closest to the average preference gets the largest sales. But the average rider is mainly interested in silly (as opposed to useful) “goodies” to try to kid the public that he is riding a racer

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    The ambulance can end up cleaning up the mess. If called out to take a failed home birther (au naturale leads to au naturale) into hospital to go under the big knife.

    Put it this way - how many of you are here today because of helmets and how many of ya mates are in vege ga ga land or doing 10 k max in wheelchairs and no longer ride like the wind - because of helmets.

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    I really don't see why people prefer to go without a helmet... Actually I remember having a conversation with one guy who had just bought a CBR900 from the place I worked and he was complaining about "How's anyone going to know it's me on the bike." He was completely serious.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ixion View Post
    ...why is it not legally mandatory for everyone to wear condoms when having sex, because they may, perhaps, prevent infection in a few cases.

    After all everyone else picks up the medical bills for you for when you catch an STD
    Impossible to police, Catholics, etc.

    A better move there would be compulsory STD tests as a lot of STDs are passed on without the carrier showing symptoms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darryboy View Post
    Impossible to police, Catholics, etc.

    A better move there would be compulsory STD tests as a lot of STDs are passed on without the carrier showing symptoms.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skidmark
    This world has lost it's drive, everybody just wants to fit in the be the norm as it were.
    Quote Originally Posted by Phil Vincent
    The manufacturers go to a lot of trouble to find out what the average rider prefers, because the maker who guesses closest to the average preference gets the largest sales. But the average rider is mainly interested in silly (as opposed to useful) “goodies” to try to kid the public that he is riding a racer

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    Quote Originally Posted by davereid View Post
    Helmet laws suck, so do safety nazis with the blah blah wear your helmet/condom/etc etc bleating.

    If you want to wear a helmet good on ya, but f.off telling me I have to.
    If the decision to wear or not wear a helmet only affected you then that's fair enough.

    BUT, as long as the rest of us have to pay (via taxes etc) for the emergency care/police and ambo attendence/surgery/rehabilitation/accident investigation/acc levy yada yada following a minor off then we'll tell you what ever the hell we like, 'cos your taxes alone aren't gonna come close to covering it.

    If you are prepared to sign a disclaimer saying you are aware of the risks and will assume all associated costs then you can wear or not wear whatever you like on your head. If you aren't prepared to help yourself then why should we be expected to help you out?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sunhuntin View Post
    i wear a helmet only cos i cant afford the fines for not...i dont however like condoms, and prefer not to use them at all. they suck, and take away all the feeling from both parties.
    Yep, condoms aren't the most romantic/erotic things invented...however they sure beat having cervical cancer. By the way, blokes get off scott free when it comes to the Papaloma Virus (apart from having to handle the funeral arrangements) they're just carriers, whereas women suffer the Big C. It's your own gender you are killing by not using condoms.

    Anway, be it helmets/condoms/parachutes what is the viable alternative? Don't say "don't wear 'em" 'cos that's just "It'll never happen to me" bullshit. Hope for the best...but plan for the worst. Anything else and you are just floating down that river in Egypt waiting to appear in the Darwin Awards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by padre View Post
    Put it this way - how many of you are here today because of helmets and how many of ya mates are in vege ga ga land or doing 10 k max in wheelchairs and no longer ride like the wind - because of helmets.
    Been in the Rehab business a LONG time and yet to come accross a case where a helmet was the proven cause of the brain injury (that is not say it couldn't happen). The brain can be severely injured just bouncing around in its own little shell.

    Cost (to the taxpayer) of not wearing a helmet? Have one client who had his accident at seventen and is now 32; first year of treatment 1.3 million, subsequent years; approximately 250K plus couple of other larger "on off" (mainly housing) of around 500k. Cheap huh....... Ok this is a particularly severe case requiring 24hr care, but this is more common than you think.
    Still when you add it up that's a lot of your and my taxes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by padre View Post
    The ambulance can end up cleaning up the mess. If called out to take a failed home birther (au naturale leads to au naturale) into hospital to go under the big knife.

    Put it this way - how many of you are here today because of helmets and how many of ya mates are in vege ga ga land or doing 10 k max in wheelchairs and no longer ride like the wind - because of helmets.
    Oh for goodness sake.... Are you utterly mad? How many studies have there been? This BS about helments causing injuries is just selective mis information put about by bad arse wanna bees. OF COURSE in a few random accidents helmets have made the situation worse but in the vast majority the rider is many many times better off.

    Aside from the logic, the fact is - it's the law - but luckily for you, this is still a democracy! If you feel so strongly about it, do something to change the law but don't make daft posts (well I guess thats just my opinion of course)

    Yes - you are free, freer than a great many places but that does not mean you should act irresponsibly and become a burden for the rest of us to bear. Lord knows we have enough non productive units to support as it is...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul in NZ View Post
    Lord knows we have enough non productive units to support as it is...
    Oi!!! I prefer to call it "character". The world would be a boring place without the likes of me in it!

    But your right. I would never consider riding anywhere without a helmet, hell Im to scared get on my bike anymore without my codura pants!
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    Some of you people are approaching this from the wrong angle. Helmet wearing should be the rider's choice. Accident and emergency/medical care should NOT be free and available equally to all. Hospital staff should reserve the right to refuse treatment of the non-helmet wearing motorcyclist who is brought into A&E at the same time as a helmet wearing motorcyclist. It should be extended to all treatment. Hospital staff should stop wasting expensive dialysis machines on fat people who keep eating KFC in front of the T.V. 7 nights a week.

    You want medical cover? Buy some private medical insurance and abide by the word of your contract - if your insurance policy says "always wear your helmet", then do so. Want to live life dangerously? Put some money in a savings account then do what the hell you want as long as the only person you hurt is yourself.

    Freedom of choice, I say!

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