Police charge woman stranded for two days after crash

[sAsLEX]

its actually a pretty low level offence in the range of driving charges and at most is only likely to get a disq licence and a fine.

It may be a "low level offence" but loosing your license for 6 months and being fined can cost some people a fuck load of money, loosing their job house partner , but yeah keeps charging people.

The fact that the car left the road and slid down a huge cliff could be a clue.

But how do you prove the big Moose wasn't smack bang in the middle of the road and she had to swerve around it causing the accident?

[vifferman]

You have GOT to fucken joking.......

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/st...ectid=10406462

It's fair enough - it will stop her doing it again, whereas if they just let her off, she might make a habit of crashing over banks and lying there in pain for two days.
And I *know* what I'm talking about. #1 son was charged with the same thing after wrecking the Subie, and he hasn't wrecked any cars since, so it must work.

[spudchucka]

It may be a "low level offence" but loosing your license for 6 months and being fined can cost some people a fuck load of money, loosing their job house partner , but yeah keeps charging people.



But how do you prove the big Moose wasn't smack bang in the middle of the road and she had to swerve around it causing the accident?

Careless driving is a fine only charge, disqualification is at the discretion of the court and they aren't going to dish it out unless the cops ask for it and have reasonable grounds to request it.

Skid marks, gouges on the road etc etc can paint a pretty clear picture of what happened and who knows what was said to police in statements.

[James Deuce]

If the Police had turned up at my accident down the road from Paul's I would have been charged with Careless. Probably a good warning to work on my skills instead of taking my license for granted.

It's how it works. She was looking at the scenery and drove off the road down a bank. I don't really want her on the road thanks.

[sAsLEX]

If the Police had turned up at my accident down the road from Paul's I would have been charged with Careless. Probably a good warning to work on my skills instead of taking my license for granted.

It's how it works. She was looking at the scenery and drove off the road down a bank. I don't really want her on the road thanks.

But were you careless?! Or was it the road's inherent flaws that were at fault, in that even an experienced and attentive rider crashed putting the blame away from you but to the council, do you think the cops would of charged the council with negligence causing injury since they had been informed of the hazard on numerous occasions but failed to even place a warning sign!?

Oh thats right its easier to charge joe public and keep the quota up.

[spudchucka]

But were you careless?! Or was it the road's inherent flaws that were at fault, in that even an experienced and attentive rider crashed putting the blame away from you but to the council, do you think the cops would of charged the council with negligence causing injury since they had been informed of the hazard on numerous occasions but failed to even place a warning sign!?

Oh thats right its easier to charge joe public and keep the quota up.

There are rules that govern how road works etc are set up and warning signs etc are part of that. If the warning signs aren't deployed correctly then the council or their contractor may be liable if an accident results. There have been cases where contractors have been charge under OSH.

However, if the signs etc are set out correctly and a biker crashes because they lost control in gravel then it is down to their own stupidity / carelessness. (not saying thats the case with you Jim, I don't recall reading about the crash you mention).

[James Deuce]

In my case the road works have been over for months but the surface has been breaking up quite badly ever since. I knew the surface was dodgy and didn't take enough care.

[The Stranger:Me]

The fact that the car left the road and slid down a huge cliff could be a clue.

Yeah, sure, she screwed up. The thing I don't quite get though is this.

What's the point in charging her, or anyone for a mistake?

Now, if I make a mistake, accept it and learn from it, and there is no victim, what purpose is served by further punisment?

We are all human, we all make mistakes, should ALL mistakes be punished?

Contrast this with say our esteemed leader who ilegally spent our money on the election even after being warned, knowingly over spent on the election, denied responsibility and there are real victims (she stole from you and me) and gets off cause the police didn't want to cause a stink.
That really is a case where a punisment is deserved.

[slimjim]

, and all in favor of the police, sick of this fuckass's crashing, getting hospital care, and fucking off out without paying for some thing, and anyway as them been oversear's , it doesn't mean fuck all

[Pixie]

Some good PR aye, what good does charging someone with careless after they have suffered like that?

I mean most people know they have fucked up if they crash and getting a charge to fuck your insurance etc aint helping the situation

What good?
It's one more contact on a piggies quota

[scumdog]

What good?
It's one more contact on a piggies quota

And don't you forget it!

[scumdog]

Yeah, sure, she screwed up. The thing I don't quite get though is this.

What's the point in charging her, or anyone for a mistake?

Now, if I make a mistake, accept it and learn from it, and there is no victim, what purpose is served by further punisment?

So y'all would be happy that drunk drivers never get charged unless they hurt somebody - after all what's the point of charging them for a mistake??

And if they make a mistake they'll accept and learn from it, right? (Tuis moment) especially if there's no victim, why the need for any punishment??.

[Jantar]

It's how it works. She was looking at the scenery and drove off the road down a bank. I don't really want her on the road thanks.

She wasn't looking at the scenery that day on that road. Visibilty was poor with low cloud and a steady heavy drizzle.

[Ixion]

I guess it'd be a bit hard to say that she *carefully* drove off the road and down a bank.

[WINJA]

She could of killed her mother and another road user. If it was you on your bike coming the other way and she didnt take the corner properly and ended up in a ditch on the other side of the road, taking you out in the process would you be so sure that she wasnt being careless with her driving?

Being Dead or waking up in a hospital bed not able to move anything below your neck or waist would be horrible.

There is no intent on her part, the charge simply means the person did not drive the way a prudent driver would and has been careless.

It's all very well to say shes been through a lot however Police really cant choose to say "well shes had it pretty rough for a couple of days so that will be enough". That is for the Court to decide.

SOME OF THESE GUYS DONT GET IT , THE PIGS ARE ACTUALLY DONIG US A FAVOUR CHARGING HER , IF IT WAS A BOY RACER WAS IN THE DITCH FOR 2 DAYS AND THE PIGS CHRAGED HIM EVERYONE WOULD SAY GREAT , THIS BITCH IS NO DIFFERENT AND IT JUST GOES TO SHOW THE PIGS ARE NOT FAVOURING ONE SECTOR OF SOCIETY THIS COUPLED WITH THE PIG BEING CHARGED WITH DRINK DRIVING AT THAT ACCIDENT AND THE PIG THAT TOOK THE OTHER PIGS LICENCE FOR 28 DAYS JUST SHOWS THE PIGS ARE TRYING TO BE CONSISTENT