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    Arj has some valid points here, the more illigal riding that goes on, the harder to get proper parks in place,

    to the guys that complian thier is no where to ride, join a club and help out, find someone willing to lease you some land, then try to get resource consent to allow you to use it, then manage it so people actually like to ride their, after you have done all this which will take you 2-5 years by the way) if you are not willing to do this, don;t winge at paying a measly $20-30 dollars to ride a track someone is losing money running,

    if you think thier is money in it youare kidding yourself, do you think John Cobb makes money off Ardmore, your wrong why he has poored that much time into the place for that many years confuses me, James from Thundercross and Kimmy from Kimmy's farm are the same, they make enought to pay for the maintence and thats about it, the Pukekohe and Rodney clubs only put the money back into their facilties, and Greg Power and Nick Reader could make way better money for the time and effort they put in to thier rides doing something else, they use their friends and family to help prop up these rides and if were not for the money of Suzuki and HOnda respectfully these guys would not be around either.

    next time you ride somewhere iligal, think of the consquences, it is not your tax payers right to ride were you like,

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    Quote Originally Posted by arj127 View Post
    You have chosen motocross as your sport. As with all sports, there are designated areas where you compete or practise. If your chosen sport was circuit racing in a car, you would not be practising on the local neighbourhood streets. Yes its sad when people move into an area where there is an existing race track of some kind and start complaining. But in my case, the dirt bikes arrived afterwards. Weekends were peaceful.

    Hopefully Auckland will become more switched on and maybe create some kind of track up by the Snowplanet or something.
    I'm sorry but, WTF!!!

    Motorcross? Sport? Where are these things mentioned in this thread?

    That's like saying because you ride a sportsbike, like to twist the throttle occassionally that you've chosen to be a roadracer and therefore should be forced to only ride your bike on the Track. Bullshit.

    Where talking about people who "enjoy" riding offroad having the ability to utilise public access places in order to satisfy their passion and enjoy their hobby. I know the spot in question isn't public access, but rather private property. That's what everyone is complaining about (up there, where a bit better off down here - may that never change), is that there is a distinct lack of public access to crown land which can be utilised by offroaders.

    I can only speak for myself. But I have no interest in joining a club yet. I'm still in the infancy of my development as a dualsport rider (hell as a rider in general), have little money and family commitments. All combined means I'm happy to putter around whenever I get a chance, and can't be tied down to particular times/dates. Thankfully within half an hour from my home is a place I can play at anytime for free.

    Maybe one day in the future I'll reach a personal level where I'd like to start trying Enduros, Crosscountry rides, etc. In which case then it'll be worthwhile/necessary to join a club.

    Personally that "track" in question looks boring as hell and I doubt I'd bother. But if I was in Auckland I probably would however, ignore tresspass signs on Crown forestry land, etc. Either that or move the fuck out of auckland.

    Back to my original comparison. Remember each time you twist your throttle on the road and drift over the speedlimit you too are breaking the law in order to indulge in your passion. Expecting offroaders to stop is about as likely as expecting you to.

    Having said all that Auckland offroaders have to take a bit of responsibility. You know living in Auckland it's going to be far getting out of Auckland. Riding somewhere like in the article is going to do nothing for your public image, but rather piss people off. It's not like your illegally riding a forestry trail or some.
    If you going to break the law, why not put a positive twist on it. Ride some tracks, take a rubbish bag along and pick up litter as you go. It might not get you off if caught, but it could go some way to showing that offroad riders are considerate, valuable members of the community who should be intitled to access community land, rather than hoons who leave a trail of destruction in their wake.
    Hell get a large enough group of offroaders to participate in the cleanup and call the local papers for a bit of free good publicity. Maybe then when you make submissions to access public land, you may have an increased chance of a positive response.



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    My wife and I were talking about this the other day and we have been serioulsy tempted to buy a spot up there (by snow planet) with a house nad building a tack on it. I was thinking of having a small fee very strong noise rules. How many of you would be keen to ride on a track like this? It would be a small MX style track. But I think that we would be hard pressed to open it cause of the noise. would it be a better idea to get some of the clubs together to open a track in teh albany industrial area? beside the BMX track for example??

    It's a pity that there is no free areas to ride, in Napier there was the river you could go have a blat at. But paying a small fee fro a good track and security is not so bad if you ask me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cheese View Post
    My wife and I were talking about this the other day and we have been serioulsy tempted to buy a spot up there (by snow planet) with a house nad building a tack on it. I was thinking of having a small fee very strong noise rules. How many of you would be keen to ride on a track like this? It would be a small MX style track. But I think that we would be hard pressed to open it cause of the noise. would it be a better idea to get some of the clubs together to open a track in teh albany industrial area? beside the BMX track for example??
    You will have an absolute nightmare with this because of noise. There are several things going on with the Rodney Council at the moment regarding this sort of thing.
    One of the nasties i have heard is that they are trying to ban all motorsport on private land, this wouldnt affect you having a fang on your farm, but would stop the likes of the Rodney Motorcycle Club from having a meet there.

    I have thought about an MX style park (aka Kimmys farm)for the north of Auckland as well, and believe the only hope of getting something like this would be a large plot of land well north (workwarth/wellsford way) with the park setup in the middle and get resource consent before you even start earthworks.

    If anyone does seriously look at doing this sort of thing, i am more than happy to help out in any way.

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    Some years ago there was a guy (ex A Grade trials rider) who had some trails on his property at the top of Albany hill,he used to hire out XR200's too.No way he could do it in this day and age.
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    Good luck to anybody who proposes to set up a track, I'll be the first to come along and pay my $20 or $30, you sure would have earned it! there is an absolute nightmare of PC bullshit that you'll have to wade through in the consent process and there is no guarantee that you'll get a consent not until you have the paperwork in your hand and even then the Minister can try and over rule it. The Resource Management Act and the Council officers that enforce you will drive you up the wall and bleed you dry. For example how the hell does noise become an issue in the middle of a forest! Surley there is no better place for a bike park. Save your money and support the established tracks that's the only way they can keep operating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chris View Post
    You could always offer the use of your garden instead.
    its not his garden he;s complaining abt, its someone eles's private land which is abt 400-500 metres away in an industrial area that he has a problem with. a bit precious i reckon

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost Lemur View Post
    Personally that "track" in question looks boring as hell and I doubt I'd bother. But if I was in Auckland I probably would however, ignore tresspass signs on Crown forestry land, etc. Either that or move the fuck out of auckland.
    it's ideal for someone like my boss's son who is just learning and doesnt want to have to pay $20-30 to ride around in circles at somewhere like ardmore etc.

    it's not like there is 30+ bikes racing around on that plot of land anyway, its 1 or 2 bikes having a blat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by telliman View Post
    its not his garden he;s complaining abt, its someone eles's private land which is abt 400-500 metres away in an industrial area that he has a problem with. a bit precious i reckon
    you the truth Telliman, i don't relly give a toss about guys riding up there at the moment. Maybe if more bikes turn up i will. I am just trying to make people understand that they are not actually helping us offroad riders by riding in illegal areas. With the amount of events put on by clubs and other private land owners there is no real reason to ride in Albany.

    And like i said, dirt bikes up there can be clearly heard from my place, where as the motorway can't. Maybe if the bikes were XR250's or something along those lines you would hardly here them (but who wants to ride one of those these days?). Most people who own a home have a better understanding of how noise like this can effect the resale value of thier home etc. Thats why i think this person has maybe gone to the paper about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by charles23 View Post
    For example how the hell does noise become an issue in the middle of a forest!
    well, if a tree falls down in the middle of a forest and there is no one there to hear it, does it still make a noise??

    that's an issue right there.

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    Dude, thats the middle of suburbia, of course people are gonna get slutted off.
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    i just feel theres two sides to the story,the urban spread is on its way and dirt bikers arnt the only ones being effected. i believe theres always gonna be a few that fuck it up for the rest in everything we do, thats a fact of life! id love to see the owners turn up and start charging $5 or something,cause its obvious that they dont mind.then there would be no laws being broken. stick it up the neighbour,hes probably the same guy that wants fireworks band!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Dover View Post
    well, if a tree falls down in the middle of a forest and there is no one there to hear it, does it still make a noise??

    that's an issue right there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by charles23 View Post
    Time to break out the tissues
    is it time for a circle jerk already??

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    MAybe CHH could let us use some more of teh forests. After all us riding them keeps teh fire breaks open!

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