Speeding Tickets

[Ixion]

Actually, dictionary.coms (ok it's 'merkin) one of many definitions of privilige is:

any of the rights common to all citizens under a modern constitutional government:

Well in that case the original statement is circular , since it resolves to "it's not a right it's a right (common to all citizens)"

[Grahameeboy]

Mwahahahah! Like THAT old chestnut is going to work!!

As the other guy said, if in doubt - pull over.

True but still seems wrong when cops do this sort of thing to entice crime...........must admit I would have slowed and if this did not work sped up....what if it was a joker, you pull over and he rams you........but agree the lack of licence is not a good one although still worth pleading guilty to this and defending the other...you have nothing to lose I guess other than a few xtra $$....and Ixion do not think of riding on a 3 monther...just not worth it cause if caught you get 6 months...get a limited if you can..it is easy and no lawyers needed....

[scumdog]

I thought the cops were supposed to stop chasing you if you went over 150........

Mwahahahah...ANOTHER urban myth, where do you keep getting this stuff from???

Wherever it is I'd stop going there, 'advice' like that can drop you in it big-time.

[Ixion]

No no no, it's true. I know it is, cos a mate heard it directly from a guy who cleans the office of the mistress of a very senior cop, and she told him, so it must be true.

All you have to do if they chase you is get up to 160kph and their comms centre will make them give up the chase. It's true I tells you.

And also, they're not allowed to stop you or start following you unless you've done something wrong. So if they do, and you haven't done anything wrong , you can just tell them to piss off.

(Gotta go now, have to talk to my accountant about my popcorn franchise)

[spudchucka]

He also didn't wear his hat, which I'm told he should have.

Cracks me up every time I hear it.

Speeding away from fog lights? Why didn't you just pull over and let the fog lights go past?

[Mamba]

Does he actualy take ur picture when he tags u?

Could u possibly sugest that u were doing less than 140, and thathe is trying to get his % for the fine?

[Ixion]

No, no, no, see he was a mufti cop, so he has to wear a hat.And what's more it has to be a DISTINCTIVE hat, none of your boring old ones. And it has to have a badge, too

It's in the rules, see
Land Transport Act 1998
Part 9 Enforcement of responsibilities (s 113 to s 132)
114Power to require driver to stop and give name and address, etc

(1)An enforcement officer who is wearing a distinctive cap, hat, or helmet, with a badge of authority affixed to it, may signal or request the driver of a vehicle to stop the vehicle as soon as is practicable.

So I reckon that all the resident Plods should have to post up pictures of their distinctive hats. So we can laugh at them.

It also occurs to me that although bikie cops wear helmets, they're not DISTINCTIVE helmets, and the dont have badges on them So I reckon a bikie cop can never give anyone a ticket, right.

Trust me on this, no judge could argue with it, it's their above in balck and white.

[NighthawkNZ:Me]

If your restricted to 70kph, and it's too dangerous to venture onto the motorway/highway, surely you stay in 50kph areas ?

Perhaps this is what govt intended when they introduced that rule ?

When that law was introduced the open road speed limit was only 80kmph.

[Shadows]

It also occurs to me that although bikie cops wear helmets, they're not DISTINCTIVE helmets, and the dont have badges on them So I reckon a bikie cop can never give anyone a ticket, right.

Are you sure the helmets haven't got stickers with the Police insignia on them? I thought that they did... but I think the last time I was pulled over by somebody on a bike it was in the days of the MOT so I could be completely wrong.

[Ixion]

When that law was introduced the open road speed limit was only 80kmph.

No it wasn't.Thisis often stated, but I have checked and I do not think it is correct.

The first Graduated Driver License Scheme was introduced in 1987. The speed limit was increased to 100kph in 1985. It was 55mph (90kph) on "ordinary" roads and 100kph on motorways until 1974, when it was dropped to 50mph (80kph) because of the oil crisis (same year also brought in compulsary helmets and blurdy metrowodjadinkies instead of proper miles - bad year all round 1974) .

But, as noted , it was put back up to 100kph 2 years BEFORE the first GDLS.

Note also, that until 1999 the GDLS did not apply to those over 25. They could sit for a full license straight away. so a lot of the restrictions were probably put in with an implicit assumption that those affecte dwould only be young people.

[Ixion]

Are you sure the helmets haven't got stickers with the Police insignia on them? I thought that they did... but I think the last time I was pulled over by somebody on a bike it was in the days of the MOT so I could be completely wrong.

I'm not sure. But I'm not about to let the facts get in the way of a good theory.

[idb]

So I reckon that all the resident Plods should have to post up pictures of their distinctive hats.

They could make their own hats at play-time from old egg cartons and glued-on pipe cleaners.
They could get a certificate from the commissioner and their mums could stick them on the fridge.

[idb]

Interesting - how accurate do Holden certify their speedometers to be? Most manufacturers it's +/- 10% I think. Could reduce the chargeable speed to 126kph if contested by a decent lawyer.

Well.........in Balclutha they're still using Kingswoods so Scumdog would have to mentally convert from mph to kmh which must introduce a margin of error of 20% for a start..............

[scumdog]

Well.........in Balclutha they're still using Kingswoods so Scumdog would have to mentally convert from mph to kmh which must introduce a margin of error of 20% for a start..............

Belmonts sunshine, Belmonts, - you tax-payers don't dub up enough dosh for us to be cruising around in Kingswoods!!!

[scumdog]

Interesting - how accurate do Holden certify their speedometers to be? Most manufacturers it's +/- 10% I think. Could reduce the chargeable speed to 126kph if contested by a decent lawyer.

Surprisingly enough I've had an 'engineer' (well he told me he was one) have a go at me on that point when I pinged him at 126kph
"I'm an engineer and I KNOW these things aren't that accurate, you're wasting my time because I am going to have to defend this, how do I know I wasn't actually only doing 125kph?"

Was well-heeled looking driving a near-new Mercedes SoftUrbanVehicle of some sort.

Never heard any more about it after he stormed off in a cloud of roadside dust'n'gravel.