P/Methamphetamines

**scumdog** · 20th November 2006, 20:23

Originally Posted by DMNTD

I never did...past tense btw!
Abuse of P will lead to serious "negatives" for a lack of a better word.
Occasional use of a small amount does not if ya half human to start with.

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IMHO?? ANY use is abuse, but what would I know, I just deal with the wreckage of lives it destroys and try to pick up the pieces for those left if possible...

**SixPackBack** · 20th November 2006, 20:28

Originally Posted by scumdog

IMHO?? ANY use is abuse, but what would I know, I just deal with the wreckage of lives it destroys and try to pick up the pieces for those left if possible...

True Scummy but by default your postion precludes you from seeing users not destroyed or significantly changed by their habit.

[for the record!! never tried it never will ]

**DMNTD:Me** · 20th November 2006, 20:29

Originally Posted by scumdog

IMHO?? ANY use is abuse, but what would I know, I just deal with the wreckage of lives it destroys and try to pick up the pieces for those left if possible...

Sure,but do you agree that you'd see the worst end of the abuse? IE: the fuckwit that has just stabbed/beaten/robbed some poor person?

As I've stated earlier I do not condone the use of P...and I've also stated that I have helped many to get off P. I'm just trying to point out that not all are exactly the same...that is it.

**terbang** · 20th November 2006, 20:29

Quite frankly I don't give a rats arse if people, informed people aware of the risks, take drugs. As long as they go and blow their brains out (not in my backyard) in the privacy of their own lives and don't impinge upon the lives of others, then go for it. However don't expect me to pick up the tab when it all goes wrong. Though I know I do through paying taxes and because alcohol is legal. The ones that really get up my nose are the ones that make a living out of supplying Drugs. Whether it be couriers or sellers it doesnt matter and they get very rich on selling this shit. Like any sort of a salesman, with practised pitch and propoganda, they will prey on those that are easy to sell to, like teenagers and the likes who don't yet have the maturity to see past tomorrow let alone the rest of their lives. Many are not fully informed about the substance they are about to be introduced to. A great way for some to start their lives..!

**scumdog** · 20th November 2006, 20:36

Originally Posted by SixPackBack

True Scummy but by default your postion precludes you from seeing users not destroyed or significantly changed by their habit.

[for the record!! never tried it never will ]

Sure, but just trying to balance the "it's o.k' point of view.
Those destructively and badly affected by drug use cause a ripple effect on those around them, possibly up to X10.

Those NOT not so affected by the drug use obviously do not affect anybody - BUT of course this is taking into consideration their work record and financial affect on family and friends which, ergo a negative effect, no winners eh?

**WINJA** · 20th November 2006, 20:37

Im Addicted To Masturbation , Where Can I Get Help?

**DMNTD:Me** · 20th November 2006, 20:38

Originally Posted by WINJA

Im Addicted To Masturbation , Where Can I Get Help?

Mate just spit on it and take the matter in hand

**Whynot** · 20th November 2006, 20:38

Originally Posted by WINJA

Im Addicted To Masturbation , Where Can I Get Help?

you could probably start here ....

http://www.allaboutlifechallenges.or...-addiction.htm
and
http://www.sexualcontrol.com/masturb...addiction.html

**scumdog** · 20th November 2006, 20:40

Originally Posted by WINJA

Im Addicted To Masturbation , Where Can I Get Help?

From "Ky-R-Us"?

**Big Dave** · 20th November 2006, 20:40

Originally Posted by Ixion

I know nothing about such matters, .

Cocaine habit-forming? Of course not. I ought to know. I’ve been using it for years.- Bankhead, Tallulah

You know your mates.

I started typing my list of the dead or casualties but it was just long and sad.
Don't do class As and I'm leaving it at that.

**SN4PD** · 20th November 2006, 20:41

Originally Posted by WINJA

Im Addicted To Masturbation , Where Can I Get Help?

HERE

**Ixion** · 20th November 2006, 20:41

Originally Posted by terbang

About as much as Jakarta has..

Um, that doesn't help me, I don't know if Jakarta does either. I was going to suggest that if we did as singapore does and hanged the dealers , we might have fewer problems. Then realised that I didn't actually know if Singapore had a problem or not.

Treating drug addicts as hardened criminals is perhaps the worst possible way to intervene, after all many of us have 'addictive' personalities. My current addiction is Motorcycles, thankfully a legal persuit.
Drug addiction is a sickness or want that in many cases precludes a criminal mind or intent.
Treatment is called for not jail time.

Possibly granted- I'm not entirely convinced. But may we distinguish the addicts from the dealers? The addict, like an alcoholic, may not be entirely in control of what they do. I doubt the same is true for the "kingpins" who make the big money from the trade.

(And yes, I know we don't hang the sellers of alcohol. But , given the relative ratios of consumers, it appears that we see more major problems attributed to P than to ethanol)

**Big Dave** · 20th November 2006, 20:42

Originally Posted by WINJA

Im Addicted To Masturbation , Where Can I Get Help?

NWS.

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**Ixion** · 20th November 2006, 20:44

Originally Posted by Big Dave

Cocaine habit-forming? Of course not. I ought to know. I’ve been using it for years.- Bankhead, Tallulah

You know your mates.

I started typing my list of the dead or casualties but it was just long and sad.
Don't do class As and I'm leaving it at that.

Actually, I know noone who, to my knowledge uses or has used anything stronger than marijuana. In my youff I knew people who hung out with people who were reputed to use heroin,that's as near as I've got. I had a very sheltered upbringing!